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    YDA demands ... Decide urself



    Read the demands of drs thoroughly and decide urself being neutral wts rite n wts wrong
    think if all these demands are met then who will benefit from this ? poor patients will get the benefit and this fight is not personal for any dr its for permanent health structure here...
    realise it ppl
    decide urself being pakistani nation in this matter u r with drs raising n fighting over these issues or with govt wasting ur tax money on adds and igniting u against drs running from their own responsibilities,,,,,,,,,,,,
    nation has to decide this is the final time and u matter alot , u can get the bst health facilities in ur own province n country just raise ur voice b bold n wise not deaf n blind... votes ka qarz apka hai khadim pe apne and u have right to ask him abt this and pressurize him to solve the issue this time as he has already made 13 comitees in 2 years and still no result thats the performance of khadim e aala

    mods kindly kindly let this topic stay as nobody really knows the demands of yda and drs and whole nation is being fooled by false pmln adds so its essential to show the reality aagey faisla awaam ka...

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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    hakoomat ki jaib khali hai .sab kuch tou defense budget main chala jata hai


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by drsaleem007 View Post


    Read the demands of drs thoroughly and decide urself being neutral wts rite n wts wrong
    think if all these demands are met then who will benefit from this ? poor patients will get the benefit and this fight is not personal for any dr its for permanent health structure here...
    realise it ppl
    decide urself being pakistani nation in this matter u r with drs raising n fighting over these issues or with govt wasting ur tax money on adds and igniting u against drs running from their own responsibilities,,,,,,,,,,,,
    nation has to decide this is the final time and u matter alot , u can get the bst health facilities in ur own province n country just raise ur voice b bold n wise not deaf n blind... votes ka qarz apka hai khadim pe apne and u have right to ask him abt this and pressurize him to solve the issue this time as he has already made 13 comitees in 2 years and still no result thats the performance of khadim e aala

    mods kindly kindly let this topic stay as nobody really knows the demands of yda and drs and whole nation is being fooled by false pmln adds so its essential to show the reality aagey faisla awaam ka...
    I agree.
    If I were the author of this document I would have added a few more!


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by sabir1 View Post
    hakoomat ki jaib khali hai .sab kuch tou defense budget main chala jata hai

    Education budget for one year is 2 billion and expenditure for the president is about 2 billion? Defence is the back bone but what is the president for you? your back bone?


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by Star Gazer View Post
    I agree.
    If I were the author of this document I would have added a few more!
    apky khadim e aala in pe nahi maan rhy more add kr k kya faida ,,
    yahi ho jayen tou the result will b extreme improvement in health dep
    phir shyd in siasat dano ko b hmary kharchy pe baahar ja k ilaaj na krana parey


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by sabir1 View Post
    hakoomat ki jaib khali hai .sab kuch tou defense budget main chala jata hai
    we have to change it na thats the demand
    kabb tak defence budget n minister pe paisa lgy ga and aam admi ilaaj k liye zaleel hota phiry ga
    200 beds hon 2000 mareez hon how can u expect gud health care from limited drs?
    health is the most imp issue in daily life , aek din b emergency bnd hojaye tou awam bilbila uthti hai defence budget se awam ka kuch bhala nahi ho raha


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by drsaleem007 View Post
    apky khadim e aala in pe nahi maan rhy more add kr k kya faida ,,
    yahi ho jayen tou the result will b extreme improvement in health dep
    phir shyd in siasat dano ko b hmary kharchy pe baahar ja k ilaaj na krana parey

    This is not a good attitude, yehi ho jay to bohat hai.
    Sorry I like every one else has been given rights, responsibilities and talents by Allah and answerable to Him alone. If these khuddaam can do something for us they do it as a responsibility, I am not beholden to them!

    Haq maang rahain hain in key tarha vote naheen!


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by Star Gazer View Post
    This is not a good attitude, yehi ho jay to bohat hai.
    Sorry I like every one else has been given rights, responsibilities and talents by Allah and answerable to Him alone. If these khuddaam can do something for us they do it as a responsibility, I am not beholden to them!

    Haq maang rahain hain in key tarha vote naheen!
    well i agree... vote mangny tou ye ayen gy abhi 6 maah baad bheek ki trah
    aur itna hojaye buht hai wali baat nahi m saying itna e nahin ho raha aur tou kya hona , these are just the basic points .. hadd tou ye hai k awam b inn munaafqon ki baaton me aa k apna haqq chor k inka sath dy rhe hai and drs ko bura keh rhy hain instead of supporting them in the cause,,,
    kher something is gonna happen gud or bad Alah knows


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    @drsaleem007 Mery bhai apkay tamam mutalbaat jaiz hayn mager ye sochey hayn kay apkay boycott se jo ghareeb admi margaya uska kia qasoor hay?? ap logo ko chayee kay baith kay koi naya tareeqa dhondayn athejaj ka, mager khudara masoom logo per zulm na karein...

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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Dear Doctors, Your demands may be justified but where in the world is Medical Education subsidized. When u graduate u take an oath to serve humanity. But now it seems u r interested in servicing your bank accounts only

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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by EniGma90 View Post
    @drsaleem007 Mery bhai apkay tamam mutalbaat jaiz hayn mager ye sochey hayn kay apkay boycott se jo ghareeb admi margaya uska kia qasoor hay?? ap logo ko chayee kay baith kay koi naya tareeqa dhondayn athejaj ka, mager khudara masoom logo per zulm na karein...
    ap suggest kr den koi aur tarika jo drs ne na apnaya ho 4 saalon me kaali patti se ly k sarak block takk mgr hukumrano k kaano pe joon tak nahin reengti
    and koi nahin marr raha just outdoor bnd hai emergency is open jahan elaaj horaha hai han mushkil zaror hai jiska hisaab govt ko dena hai jisny 2 saal se wada kiya hua hai still pura nahin kiya and 13 comitees bna din mgr aek point b pora nahi hua..... dr's most reasonable log hain humara kaam nahin sarkon pe zaleel hona parr hamein b zaleel hona parr raha hai , dandy khany parr rhy hain and aagy Allah janey aur kya kya kary ye zaalim hukumat mgr poor patients n health dept k liye kuch krna nahi chahty q k uss se vote nahi milty na vote tou adds deny and dramy bazi se dialogue bazi se mil jany hain unko , tou unko kya zrort issue solve krnu ki unky konsa maa behn marr rahi hai apna aur family ka ilaaj tou baahar se ho jana hai unka so they damn care and we have to fight hard for this and its upto ppl what they decide for their own health and their servants ...


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by Lahori Paa Jee View Post
    Dear Doctors, Your demands may be justified but where in the world is Medical Education subsidized. When u graduate u take an oath to serve humanity. But now it seems u r interested in servicing your bank accounts only
    from where these bank accounts come into play?
    read the document once again dear...
    hmari oath hamein yaad hai apky liye bahter hai k apne khadim e aala se uski oath ka jawab len..
    hazrat Ali ka qoul hai k zulm ka nizaam kabhi nahin chal sakta aur ye drs n patients dono pe zulm ho raha hai and this has to change......
    zaleel drs ho rhy hain sarkon pe the cream of nation and drs b awam hain hukumraan nahin ye yaad rakhen its awam vs hukumraan ... chose ur side
    btw m not in favour of strike anyway but there is no other option left i know that too being dr
    and last time strike was called of just for the patients otherwise drs cud have continued strike even at that time untill the demands were fulfilled par kisko pta tha k ye wada kr k bhi mukar jayen gy aur hamein phir zaleel hona pary ga ... but i assure them they will lose all public support too if they dnt solve this issue ye awam itni b phuddo nahin rhe abb vote mangny tou inky pas e ana hai na
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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by Lahori Paa Jee View Post
    Dear Doctors, Your demands may be justified but where in the world is Medical Education subsidized. When u graduate u take an oath to serve humanity. But now it seems u r interested in servicing your bank accounts only

    Sir i ask to to visit any govt hospital in Lahore and see for urself that when OPDs are closed due to strike,all OPD patients come to emergency and they get their treatment in emergency...In normal routine days when there is no strike even then the OPDs are closed on Sundays so kindly understand that OPD strike isnt affecting awam like the media is potraying...I myself is in no favor of strike but u tell us that for last 3 yrs we are asking for a service structure..We were promised that a year ago by CM himself and now not only they have gone back from promise but have strted a whole malicious propaganda campaign against doctors profession..

    In India,Bangladesh and many other countries med education is subsidized and still they give a proper service struture..In US they offer loans during med education but u know better than me that after their residency they can strt at minimum 2.5 lakh dollars a year..So please dont compare US med education system with Pak med system..

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    Masaila yeh hai keh yeh service structure wali takleef sirf Punjab mein keon ho rahi hian baqi teen subon mein keon nahin mujhey to yeh sara chakkar political lagta hai Punjab mein doctors kee salary baqi province sey ziada hai. Hamarey province mein itney kam salary itney sakht halat key bawjood key har roaz suicide ho rahey hain Hospital ko 24 hours alert rahna parhta hai woh us sey kam salary par kaam kar rahey hain aur Punjab mein YDA waley har dafa new multibat key sath samney ajatey hain. Mein ney uskey jo leaders hain uskey interview dekhey hain uskey baton sey to yahi lagta hai keh ziada tar PTI key hain aur sara chakkar to political lagta hai. Pubjab mein politically PMLN ko neecha dikaney key leyey mareezon key sath khela ja raha hai keon keh mein ney aik thread dekha tha jiss mein aik doctor sahib farma rahey they keh yeh Punjab govt is leyey mutalibat nahin maan rahi hian keh ziada tar doctors ka talooq PTI sey hai...lagta hai yeh gandi siasat ka asar doctors par bhi ho gaya hai


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    fashion hay k shuru main nazar batto k liay aawam ka naam lo . Abay zalimo isi mardood awam ka ilaj to kaartay nahi tum log hartal kar kay

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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by mnalam49 View Post
    Masaila yeh hai keh yeh service structure wali takleef sirf Punjab mein keon ho rahi hian baqi teen subon mein keon nahin mujhey to yeh sara chakkar political lagta hai Punjab mein doctors kee salary baqi province sey ziada hai. Hamarey province mein itney kam salary itney sakht halat key bawjood key har roaz suicide ho rahey hain Hospital ko 24 hours alert rahna parhta hai woh us sey kam salary par kaam kar rahey hain aur Punjab mein YDA waley har dafa new multibat key sath samney ajatey hain. Mein ney uskey jo leaders hain uskey interview dekhey hain uskey baton sey to yahi lagta hai keh ziada tar PTI key hain aur sara chakkar to political lagta hai. Pubjab mein politically PMLN ko neecha dikaney key leyey mareezon key sath khela ja raha hai keon keh mein ney aik thread dekha tha jiss mein aik doctor sahib farma rahey they keh yeh Punjab govt is leyey mutalibat nahin maan rahi hian keh ziada tar doctors ka talooq PTI sey hai...lagta hai yeh gandi siasat ka asar doctors par bhi ho gaya hai
    dnt try n compare provinces.....
    apky sooby me health ka minister to hoga atleast yahan tou wo b nahin hai baaki kya hona.
    aur kya ap bta sakty hain drs ki pay kitni hai wahan jo buht kamm hai punjab se ? ya just khadim aala ka add dekh k ussy hadis maan liya


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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by Queue Farms View Post
    fashion hay k shuru main nazar batto k liay aawam ka naam lo . Abay zalimo isi mardood awam ka ilaj to kaartay nahi tum log hartal kar kay
    visit any hsptl near u and see ilaaj ho raha hai , media ya khaadim e aala ka kya kehna janab
    jitna patient zaleel ho rhy hain uss se kahin zyada drs ho rhy hain shyd apko ye nahin pta bcs ap just tv dekh k sab batein hawa me kr rhy hain aek din field me chakar lga k dekhen
    aur aed din b dr ilaaj se inkaar kr den tou 500,600 deaths apko nazar aayen gi so dnt say dr ilaaj nahin kr rhy


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    Quote Originally Posted by drsaleem007 View Post
    dnt try n compare provinces.....
    apky sooby me health ka minister to hoga atleast yahan tou wo b nahin hai baaki kya hona.
    aur kya ap bta sakty hain drs ki pay kitni hai wahan jo buht kamm hai punjab se ? ya just khadim aala ka add dekh k ussy hadis maan liya
    Ap aik kaam karo charon province key salary ka chart aap publish karo phir batao yeh baqi jo sobey key leyey aap ney jo yeh kaha keh itney doctor hain free mariz ya hospital mein yeh facilities chahey yeh sab dhakosla hai sirf awam kee hamdardi hasil karney key leyey meri nazar mein YDA key doctors aur kidnapper mein koee faraq nahin hai...Kidnapper logon ko kidnapped karkey ransom demand kartey hain aap log bhi marizon ko yarghamal bana kar apni demand kar rahey hain...Simple yahi lagta hai Doctor and Dako aik catagory mein agayey hein

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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    Quote Originally Posted by mnalam49 View Post
    Ap aik kaam karo charon province key salary ka chart aap publish karo phir batao yeh baqi jo sobey key leyey aap ney jo yeh kaha keh itney doctor hain free mariz ya hospital mein yeh facilities chahey yeh sab dhakosla hai sirf awam kee hamdardi hasil karney key leyey meri nazar mein YDA key doctors aur kidnapper mein koee faraq nahin hai...Kidnapper logon ko kidnapped karkey ransom demand kartey hain aap log bhi marizon ko yarghamal bana kar apni demand kar rahey hain...Simple yahi lagta hai Doctor and Dako aik catagory mein agayey hein
    thats ur own mind and ur thinking , think the way u like
    me just itna kahon ga k 1 din b drs ne ilaaj se inkaar krdiya tou uss din punjab me atleast 500,600 log expire hon gy in hsptl , aagy apki aqal ap ne jo smjhna hai smjho k ilaaj ho raha hai ya yarghamali..
    thora dimagh pe zor daalo smjh aajayga
    aur tmhari baat se mjhy andaza hogya tmharey knowledge ka abt salary of drs in province, tm ne kaha na k tmharey province me buht km hai drs ki salary tou mjhy province n salary btao phir me btata hun fact tmhen.... but i know u know nothing just suni sunayi uraa rhy ho typical pakistani
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    Re: YDA demands ... Decide urself

    We are not alone in this world. Look at this
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18525632


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