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    Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi




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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    goood program ... really informative ... buy it or not but listen n watch plzz ... with open heart n mind .. i dint buy this but get some good points ...


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    i like him alot.


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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    There is a serious flaw with this Anchor.

    He does not not give someone space to complete their argument. He constantly interrupts and jumps around to other topics with single minded zeal to convolute the discussion, somehow merge different arguments together to defeat the guest (as if this is a wrestling match). It is lost on him that the purpose of the program is to let the viewers understand the point of view of the guest.

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    Quote Originally Posted by RaqeebRoosia View Post
    There is a serious flaw with this Anchor.

    He does not not give someone space to complete their argument. He constantly interrupts and jumps around to other topics with single minded zeal to convolute the discussion, somehow merge different arguments together to defeat the guest (as if this is a wrestling match). It is lost on him that the purpose of the program is to let the viewers understand the point of view of the guest.


    Today our all confusion in islam is based on wrong hadiths/history, we do not consult Quran. Iqbal says "haqeeqat khurafat mein kho ghai, ummat rawayat mein kho ghai.........all sects in islam are on the bases of hadiths not on quran basis, but we have no time and courage to think about this and accepting reality as pigeon shut eyes in front of cat......

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    he is creazy


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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    This person has his own version of Islam. He is categorically going against Hadith.


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    غامدی وہ برساتی مینڈک ہے، جو مشرف دور میں "روشن خیالی" کی بارش کے دوران زمین سے نکالا گیا تھا۔ لگتا ہے اوبامے نے مزید فنڈ ریلیز کیے ہیں، مگر اسے عنقریب دوبارہ بھاگنا پڑے گا۔

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    Friends, he is quoting Quran and Haddis, why you have problem with this.

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    Quote Originally Posted by hammad78 View Post
    This person has his own version of Islam. He is categorically going against Hadith.
    Why not explain how he is going against hadith? All he is doing is explaining how to use quran and hadith when forming laws and applying them.


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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi


    These videos clearly show Ghamdi's points are very much valid.

    Mufti sab said at the end of the first video "Khakomat koi kanoon banaye jo hadood k mokhalif na ho to wo b ISLAMI KANOON ho ga"

    While Ghamdi says wo Islami Kanoon nahi ho ga, wo INSAANI kanoon ho ga. Islami kanoon sirf wo hai jo Quran aur Hadith mein hai.

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    غامدی وہ برساتی مینڈک ہے، جو مشرف دور میں "روشن خیالی" کی بارش کے دوران زمین سے نکالا گیا تھا۔ لگتا ہے اوبامے نے مزید فنڈ ریلیز کیے ہیں، مگر اسے عنقریب دوبارہ بھاگنا پڑے گا۔
    very nice, ummat ko aise hi logoon ki zaroorat hai jin ko ilmo aqal se door ka bhi waasta na ho.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RA5X...eature=related
    Last edited by Mughal1; 25-Jun-2012 at 07:16 PM.

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    He also believes in the death of Jesus like Christians and Qadianis do. Now what would you like to say about him ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mughal1 View Post
    Why not explain how he is going against hadith? All he is doing is explaining how to use quran and hadith when forming laws and applying them.


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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    Quote Originally Posted by Mughal1 View Post
    very nice, ummat ko aise hi logoon ki zaroorat hai jin ko ilmo aqal se door ka bhi waasta na ho.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RA5X...eature=related

    یار آپ کس قسم کے مغل ہو ؟ ھر بدعقیدہ اور بِکے ہوئے "دانشور" کا ٹھیکہ لیا ہوا ھے ۔
    سب کو معلوم ہے کہ غامدی کس سٹیشن سے بولتا ہے۔


    روایت پسند علماء کی تعبیر سے اختلاف ہو سکتا ہے مگر اسکا یہ مطلب نہیں کہ ہر دو ٹکےکے بکاؤ اور مرعوب ذھنیت کے خودساختہ علامہ کے فکری ہیضے کو دین سمجھنا شروع کر دیں۔

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    Sura Āl ‘Imrān

    Translation by Dr. Tahir-ul-qadri ,
    54. وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَO
    54. پھر (یہودی) کافروں نے (عیسٰی علیہ السلام کے قتل کے لئے) خفیہ سازش کی اور اﷲ نے (عیسٰی علیہ السلام کو بچانے کے لئے) مخفی تدبیر فرمائی، اور اﷲ سب سے بہتر مخفی تدبیر فرمانے والا ہےo
    54. Then, the disbelieving (Jews) conspired secretly (to execute ‘Isa [Jesus]), but Allah covertly designed His plan (to safeguard ‘Isa [Jesus]). And Allah is the Best of secret planners.
    55. إِذْ قَالَ اللّهُ يَا عِيسَى إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَO
    55. جب اﷲ نے فرمایا: اے عیسٰی! بیشک میں تمہیں پوری عمر تک پہنچانے والا ہوں اور تمہیں اپنی طرف (آسمان پر) اٹھانے والا ہوں اور تمہیں کافروں سے نجات دلانے والا ہوں اور تمہارے پیروکاروں کو (ان) کافروں پر قیامت تک برتری دینے والا ہوں، پھر تمہیں میری ہی طرف لوٹ کر آنا ہے سو جن باتوں میں تم جھگڑتے تھے میں تمہارے درمیان ان کا فیصلہ کر دوں گاo
    55. When Allah said: ‘O ‘Isa (Jesus), I will surely bring your term of life to completion; and I am about to lift you towards Myself (in the heavens), and deliver you from the disbelievers, and exalt your followers above (these) disbelievers till the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me you all have to return. So I shall judge between you in the matters about which you used to dispute.’

    Sura an-Nisā’

    157. وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَـكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلاَّ اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًاO
    157. اور ان کے اس کہنے (یعنی فخریہ دعوٰی) کی وجہ سے (بھی) کہ ہم نے اﷲ کے رسول، مریم کے بیٹے عیسٰی مسیح کو قتل کر ڈالا ہے، حالانکہ انہوں نے نہ ان کو قتل کیا اور نہ انہیں سولی چڑھایا مگر (ہوا یہ کہ) ان کے لئے (کسی کو عیسٰی علیہ السلام کا) ہم شکل بنا دیا گیا، اور بیشک جو لوگ ان کے بارے میں اختلاف کر رہے ہیں وہ یقیناً اس (قتل کے حوالے) سے شک میں پڑے ہوئے ہیں، انہیں (حقیقتِ حال کا) کچھ بھی علم نہیں مگر یہ کہ گمان کی پیروی (کر رہے ہیں)، اور انہوں نے عیسٰی (علیہ السلام) کو یقیناً قتل نہیں کیاo
    157. And (also) because of their uttering (the boastful claim): ‘We (have) killed Allah’s Messenger, the Messiah, ‘Isa, the son of Maryam (Jesus, the son of Mary),’ whereas they neither killed nor crucified him. But (in truth) someone was made the like (of ‘Isa—Jesus) in their view. But those who disagree about him have surely fallen prey to doubt (concerning) this (murder). They know nothing (what the truth is) except (that they are) following fancy. And they certainly did not murder ‘Isa (Jesus).
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    He also believes in the death of Jesus like Christians and Qadianis do. Now what would you like to say about him ?
    Last edited by _pakistan; 25-Jun-2012 at 11:25 PM.

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    GHAMD,DR TAHIR UL QADRI and ZAID HAMID ARE FITNA.In teeno ney Islam main thori thori batein change kar k musalmano ko GUMRAH karney ki koshish ki hai.

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    Ghamidi is a wonderful person with great knowledge. I am proud to be his student his follower. I am upset that our people do not even reseach and use their minds rather hate it without knowing the reality of many things. Well Just like Allah says, truth stands clear from error and no one is custodian over anyone.

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    Re: Iftikhar clueless: Jawab Deh with Javed Ghamidi

    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    غامدی وہ برساتی مینڈک ہے، جو مشرف دور میں "روشن خیالی" کی بارش کے دوران زمین سے نکالا گیا تھا۔ لگتا ہے اوبامے نے مزید فنڈ ریلیز کیے ہیں، مگر اسے عنقریب دوبارہ بھاگنا پڑے گا۔
    Meray Bahai Jahan Deen ki baat ho rahe ho wahaan chanwal nehe maarni chahiyye,, I personaly on my own limited knowledge sometimes dis agree with Ghamdi but he is quoting Quran and hadeeth here... We would appreciate if you rather come with Sahe Hadith & verses from quran that guides us otherwise

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