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    Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)




    London: Citing stark examples from school curriculum, a prominent Islamabad-based scholar has said that extreme religious and anti-India views fed into children in schools reinforced the cycle of extremism that showed no signs of receding in Pakistan.


    Pervez Hoodbhoy, a nuclear physicist and a prominent commentator on current issues, showed the examples at a seminar in King's College on the role of education in combating terrorism, organised by the Democracy Forum.

    The examples showed by Hoodbhoy included images and text from a primer that mentioned the Urdu equivalent of A as 'Allah', B as 'bandook', Te as 'takrao', J as 'jehad', H as 'hijab', Kh as 'khanjar' and Ze as 'zunoob'.

    Hoodbhoy, whose presentation title was 'How education fuels terrorism in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan', also showed a college that is seen as going up in flames, containing images of things considered sinful: kites, guitar, satellite TV, carom board, chess, wine bottles and harmonium.

    Examples cited by Hoodbhoy from another curriculum document for Class V students included tasks such as discussion on: 'Understand Hindu-Muslim differences and the resultant need for Pakistan', 'India's evil designs against Pakistan', 'Make speeches on shehadat and jehad'.

    "There has been a sea change in Pakistan in the last six decades. The poison put into education by General Zia-ul-Haq was not changed by subsequent regimes. And attitudes have changed over the years, makes my country alien to me," Hoodbhoy said. Recalling his growing up years in Karachi, he said the city was home to Hindus, Parsis and Christians. "They are all gone. The same is true of much of Pakistan. Minorities have no place in Pakistan today".

    He held madarsas partly responsible for the situation, and regretted that efforts initiated during the regime of General Pervez Musharraf to reform them did not go far.

    After the 2007 Lal Masjid incident, liberal voices were also less welcome in Pakistan's news media, he said.

    "Every attempt at education reform has failed to remove the hate material in curriculum, but there is a minority that wants change. The situation will remain in freefall, until something drastic is done to change the situation," he said.

    Stressing on the need for pluralism and secularism in education, former Indian diplomat G Parthasarathy said tensions began when education did not foster respect for diversity and for other religions.

    There was more to terrorism than education, because some of the recent perpetrators were well educated, he said. "The most important part of education is that diversity should be cherished, that unity does not mean uniformity."

    Other speakers included King's College experts Professor Jack Spence from the Department of War Studies and Shiraz Maher from the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation.


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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    this hoodboy is the climax of non-sense.


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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    This chap needs to Wipe his mouth... there's still a little bit of BS on his lip

    Quote Originally Posted by karachi123 View Post


    London: Citing stark examples from school curriculum, a prominent Islamabad-based scholar has said that extreme religious and anti-India views fed into children in schools reinforced the cycle of extremism that showed no signs of receding in Pakistan.


    Pervez Hoodbhoy, a nuclear physicist and a prominent commentator on current issues, showed the examples at a seminar in King's College on the role of education in combating terrorism, organised by the Democracy Forum.

    The examples showed by Hoodbhoy included images and text from a primer that mentioned the Urdu equivalent of A as 'Allah', B as 'bandook', Te as 'takrao', J as 'jehad', H as 'hijab', Kh as 'khanjar' and Ze as 'zunoob'.

    Hoodbhoy, whose presentation title was 'How education fuels terrorism in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan', also showed a college that is seen as going up in flames, containing images of things considered sinful: kites, guitar, satellite TV, carom board, chess, wine bottles and harmonium.

    Examples cited by Hoodbhoy from another curriculum document for Class V students included tasks such as discussion on: 'Understand Hindu-Muslim differences and the resultant need for Pakistan', 'India's evil designs against Pakistan', 'Make speeches on shehadat and jehad'.

    "There has been a sea change in Pakistan in the last six decades. The poison put into education by General Zia-ul-Haq was not changed by subsequent regimes. And attitudes have changed over the years, makes my country alien to me," Hoodbhoy said. Recalling his growing up years in Karachi, he said the city was home to Hindus, Parsis and Christians. "They are all gone. The same is true of much of Pakistan. Minorities have no place in Pakistan today".

    He held madarsas partly responsible for the situation, and regretted that efforts initiated during the regime of General Pervez Musharraf to reform them did not go far.

    After the 2007 Lal Masjid incident, liberal voices were also less welcome in Pakistan's news media, he said.

    "Every attempt at education reform has failed to remove the hate material in curriculum, but there is a minority that wants change. The situation will remain in freefall, until something drastic is done to change the situation," he said.

    Stressing on the need for pluralism and secularism in education, former Indian diplomat G Parthasarathy said tensions began when education did not foster respect for diversity and for other religions.

    There was more to terrorism than education, because some of the recent perpetrators were well educated, he said. "The most important part of education is that diversity should be cherished, that unity does not mean uniformity."

    Other speakers included King's College experts Professor Jack Spence from the Department of War Studies and Shiraz Maher from the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation.


    http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/pa...bandook-235405

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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    This guy is anti-Pakistan, no doubt about that.
    The name pervez has something in it.

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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    yeh behood bhai shro say hi anti pakistan hai ,saiyaan kittey tey waddhian kittey
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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    Following is Absolutely True.....

    "There has been a sea change in Pakistan in the last six decades. The poison put into education by General Zia-ul-Haq was not changed by subsequent regimes. "



    Thanks for sharing the article. He is one of the most valuable Pakistanis alive, One can surely disagree with him but his analysis is very hard hitting and that makes some people very nervous (who start calling him names).


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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    y for Yahood's BHI

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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    I can tell a lot of members have come out of these educational institutions completely brainwashed in some cases brain-dead.

    But don't get all upset now they have started their curriculum in England as well preaching hate against the British. For reference search " lessons in hate and violence " on you tube.



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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    A for America and B for beg won't bother him at all .

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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    It is a big shame for us........ why do not we think that why these kinds of perception have been created in peoples mind ..... instead of start abusing him why do not we start thinking critically and bring true teachings of Islam infront of west and tell them that look these are the loving teachings of Islam that has been distorted and are being distorted and why do not we openly condemn and criticize the so called Taliban who are killing innocent people in pakistan....... why we always waste our energy in abusing and labeling others agents of different countries?????


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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    Quote Originally Posted by karachi123 View Post


    London: Citing stark examples from school curriculum, a prominent Islamabad-based scholar has said that extreme religious and anti-India views fed into children in schools reinforced the cycle of extremism that showed no signs of receding in Pakistan.


    Pervez Hoodbhoy, a nuclear physicist and a prominent commentator on current issues, showed the examples at a seminar in King's College on the role of education in combating terrorism, organised by the Democracy Forum.

    The examples showed by Hoodbhoy included images and text from a primer that mentioned the Urdu equivalent of A as 'Allah', B as 'bandook', Te as 'takrao', J as 'jehad', H as 'hijab', Kh as 'khanjar' and Ze as 'zunoob'.

    Hoodbhoy, whose presentation title was 'How education fuels terrorism in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan', also showed a college that is seen as going up in flames, containing images of things considered sinful: kites, guitar, satellite TV, carom board, chess, wine bottles and harmonium.

    Examples cited by Hoodbhoy from another curriculum document for Class V students included tasks such as discussion on: 'Understand Hindu-Muslim differences and the resultant need for Pakistan', 'India's evil designs against Pakistan', 'Make speeches on shehadat and jehad'.

    "There has been a sea change in Pakistan in the last six decades. The poison put into education by General Zia-ul-Haq was not changed by subsequent regimes. And attitudes have changed over the years, makes my country alien to me," Hoodbhoy said. Recalling his growing up years in Karachi, he said the city was home to Hindus, Parsis and Christians. "They are all gone. The same is true of much of Pakistan. Minorities have no place in Pakistan today".

    He held madarsas partly responsible for the situation, and regretted that efforts initiated during the regime of General Pervez Musharraf to reform them did not go far.

    After the 2007 Lal Masjid incident, liberal voices were also less welcome in Pakistan's news media, he said.

    "Every attempt at education reform has failed to remove the hate material in curriculum, but there is a minority that wants change. The situation will remain in freefall, until something drastic is done to change the situation," he said.

    Stressing on the need for pluralism and secularism in education, former Indian diplomat G Parthasarathy said tensions began when education did not foster respect for diversity and for other religions.

    There was more to terrorism than education, because some of the recent perpetrators were well educated, he said. "The most important part of education is that diversity should be cherished, that unity does not mean uniformity."

    Other speakers included King's College experts Professor Jack Spence from the Department of War Studies and Shiraz Maher from the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation.


    http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/pa...bandook-235405


    Truth to the bone. Good article.



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    Pervaiz Hood Bhai is 100% correct. He is genius person and fact finder.No match to him.

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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    I have been a part of the same system but I haven't experienced this...

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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    I could disagree with Hoodbhoy a number of times but he does speak hardcore truth mostly. Curriculum change karne ki baat per cosnpiracy theories aur Mullahs cheekhna shru hojate hain,ghaddari aur kufr ke slogan sunai dete hain. Those who treat Pakistan Studies textbooks like a Word of God Nauzubillah will never let anything improve in Pakistan.India is our nemesis but I never heard that they abuse any religion in their textbooks. Their software industry witnessed a boom ,they do have their own shares of human rights abuses and corruption etc... but have more doctors,engineers and specialists than any Muslim nation.
    Music is haram,women who dress in a modest way and yet not cover their heads and faces are still Jahannumi,those who shave their beard are destroyiong their Akhirah.General Zia-ul-Haq was a great servant of Islam and someone which Allah SubhanaWa'Tala (hey just Allah,don't ever use the word Khuda) sent with divine guidance,Communism is bad and anyone who says anything in favour of Communist/Socialist thinkers deserve death penalty,all non-Muslims deserve a second class treatment....these are the tenets of Pakistani society for past 3 decades.

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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    Strange

    Indigo ne jin jin ka naam moderator ke liye liya tha woh sab Parvez hoodbhai ke fan hain


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    Re: Pak kids taught 'A' for Allah, 'B' for 'bandook': Pervez Hoodbhoy (An Indian Agent Seems To Be True)

    Teaching "A for Allah" is extremism? It's obvious he's a religion hating atheist hence why I don't take him serious though I do think people like him should be silenced in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.


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    I just don't like this guy, always talking BS


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    Quote Originally Posted by Unicorn View Post
    I can tell a lot of members have come out of these educational institutions completely brainwashed in some cases brain-dead.
    Ironic comment coming from a brain-dead indian.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MuslimPak View Post
    this hoodboy is the climax of non-sense.
    shut up call for you non sense guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruPakistani View Post
    This guy is anti-Pakistan, no doubt about that.
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    he is not antipak, you are anti-pakistan who dont want an educated, sensible and modern Pakistan
    The name pervez has something in it

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