I do read him and find his articles interesting so far as he brings up the problem of military establishment's interference in our government and mostly how flawed their strategy is towards our foreign policy goals.
I am not sure about his background. But, then he is an opinion maker and could have a bent. I can understand that he can't be considered an objective analyst if he blindly supports the PPP.
I think that Pakistan's problems are not that daunting to solve if common sense approach is employed and if the solutions are urgently applied. The situation is getting worse since the powers to be are short sighted and they only care about their immediate family and friends and give a rat's @$$ about the general public or the country. They have all hedged their bets with massive amount of accumulated wealth and safe havens overseas. The problem is that people on the left and right who are on the extreme ends of the ideological spectrum (and don't have any intention to flee) are the ones who are messing things up and don't see the urgency. The people on the extreme right won't be happy until we become Saudi Arabi lite or Afghan Taliban v2. The ones on the left don't want to consider the cultural or religious sensibilities of the larger population and would no be happy until we become a clone of a western democracy. Throw in the massive corrupt political mafia in the mix, which is a cabal of military establishment, feudal class, extremely wealthy business elites, religious demagogues, bureaucracy and last but not the least the corrupt politicians who are either part of these groups or are proxies to protect the interests of these groups, and we get today's pakistan. All of these groups are hunkered down just to protect their own interests and not willing to listen to each other and busy looting.
Just the thought that we will be the 4th most populated country by 2050 with the kinds of problems we are facing today is downright scary! There is not a single word from anyone about the most pressing problem we face today which is the explosive population growth.
Any improvement over the fiasco we are calling a government will be considered a huge achievement.
Last edited by mrk123; 05-Jun-2012 at 07:34 PM.
جی جناب بالکل عوام کی بھی بات ہونی چاہیے۔لیکن کیا کیا جائے۔۔۔آج تک عوم ان مداریوں کی ڈگڈگی پر ہی ناچتی
آئی ہے۔۔۔اب ایک جینوئن لیڈر آیا ہے تو عوام اپنی بات کرے۔بھئی یہ عوامی لیڈر عوام ہی کو تو بات کررہا ہے۔
جس کا مرنا جینا ہم عوام کے ساتھ اس پاکستانی قوم کے ساتھ ہی ہے۔لندن، سعودیہ اور دوسرے ملکوں میں کوئی کاروبار کوئی جائیداد نہیں ہے۔جو کہ عوام کو چھوڑ کر بھاگ سکے۔جس نے کئی ملکوں کی سیٹٰیزن شپ تک نہیں لی۔۔۔۔اور وہ جو کچھ کرتا ہے پاکستان کے لئے۔۔۔۔کیا فرق صاف ظاہر نہیں ہے۔۔
yaar PTI walo hamid mir itna bura nahin hai. theek hai woh PMLN ki thori side laita hai laikan mera zaati khayal hai key woh imran khan ko bhee pasand kerta hai. kam az kam mein usko kabi IK ko nuqsaan ouhnchaatey nahin daikha. thats why i respect him
@mrk123 Fully agree with all u've said. To give him credit - Ik has talked about the population growth and youth bulge as a potential opportunity if it is manged properly and channeled to the benefit of our country. If it isnt then like u said its a going to be a potential disaster which will make today's mess look like child's play. If u look around the world ther are loads of examples wher ppl have started focusing on governance, education, infrastructure and social development to start addressing these issues. Some of the stuff being done by Nitish kumar in Bihar shows that small n simple steps can make a big difference, however it requires leadership and sincerity.
Inshallah with the grace of the Allmighty we will overcome this bunch of morons but its going to take some effort.
As you described we have been polarized along ethnic, religious, lines because the masses in our country follow a cult of personality which is used n abused by our left n right leaning political n military leadership. For me anyone who can combine the best of both and take a middle approach will probably b able to bring the masses with them. If u look at what Erdogan has done in Turkey it provides a bit of a road map. He himself comes with a social religious background, however he hasn't tried to force this down every1s throat. His approach up to now has been that we will prove ourselves through our behavior and through impact.
Anyways we can only hope n pray that the country gets sincere leadership otherwise be ready for Billawal n Maryam.
@sherazinayat Mashalla - The great Nawaz Sharif is going to become Prime Minister and change the destiny of pak and its people. Just like he did when he became a minister in the Military regime in the early 80s, whilst he and his bro were Chief Minister(s) of Punjab n then when he was Prime Minister. I just long for those days when they were in control and in power, cause Pak was like paradise then and just look at Punjab now - every child has access to high quality education, every family has access to world class health facilities, housing, environment, every working age man and women can find employment, overseas investors are lining up to build up the economy.
Oh crap sorry that was just PMLNs media briefing cause the reality is that ur leadership were corrupt n inept when they were eating grapes in the laps of military general back in the 80s and 90s and to make things worse have become 100 times worse now that ther next generation is also on the job.
Bud seriously - have some shame or at least try to show some degree of humanity because even an animal will bite a man that has abused it more than twice. I don't quote urdu poetry cause i'm no expert but i remember a shair from my school days
Duniya Main Qateel Us sa Munafiq Nahi Koi Jo Zulm To Sehta hai Baghawat Nahi Karta
Bud the sharifs n ther cronies case have been abusing the public for the last 3 decades and ur advocating that they carry on. This my friend beggars belief.
About telling inside stories, I know people upon forums generally are not much informed but due to my access to certain quarters, I know many things from inside. I know almost every other person speaking on TV channels personally or through some close contacts so I try to convey what I get through personal meetings than what is told to people.
I however am truly concerned about the way PTI is behaving and its followers are also my concern.
Again, I appreciate the way you criticize. I hope people like sherkhan can learn from you who whenever they speak, show how they have been raised, how they have been always spoken to and how do they behave amongst their circles.
Whenever you meet a general, ask him about my claim for army and the plan to bring in new faces (there are plans b and c also). This was told to me by Fayyaz Baqir (I am sure people who know blokes up there, will be acquainted with his name) and a certain intel officer (can't reveal his name as its not allowed by him, he is a director and a brigadier though).
@imyrathore beri achi english taqreer hai mashAllah.Mujay ab maloom hoya hai tees maar khan k supporters kitny perhy linkhy hain....wah wah wah...Laken afsoos tum so called perhy likhy burger kahany waley jahlon pay jin ko Pakistan ki histroy constitution of Pakistan ki alif bay ka b pata nahee...Actually tum logon sirf juzbat say bhery ho....tum main aur tumhrey leader main vison naam ki koi cheez nahee hai.....u know imran khan say pehaly jitny b siasatdan aye they never use such abusive language.....is khan aur tum jaisey logon nay a k itna dirth daal dia hai...itnee wrong language tum use kerty ho....k majboor ho k tumhri bao bao ka jawab dina per jata hai....Werna as i said tum aur tumhra khan humrey leay zera problem hai....16 saal dhuky kahey jiss insaan nay agey b yeh silsala chulta rahy ga inshAllah....any way main apna time tum jaisey aur timhari pti pay berbad nahee kerna chuta....bus itna kahon ga k PML.N k sub workers jider b tum jao gay tumhra berpoor muqabila kerin gay....kisi bhool main na rehna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aur haan Pakistan ko is khan koi koi zaroort nahee jiss ka past budnaami aur dirt say bhera hai...x play boy kahan say leader bun gia humra....tum jahil loogon ka yeh haal k kal ko veena malik for the sake of change party bunaye gee to u join her also.....sharm ani chaey tum logon ko.....jin ko sirf burger khany ya net cchulny ya phir lerkion k peechy ghoomny k siwa aur koi kaam nahee......any way u try level best nothing gona change by ur khan or ur bao bao party....aik baar phir shair aur lukh dee lanut tum pay aur tumhrey khan pay be.........................
Anyways - ask ur boys in the intelligence how come they dont out the Sharifs n zardaris/bhuttos or the choudharies for what they r (robber barons) and be done with it. Seriously if they were so smart - 1 call to the right people and the whole cupboard full of the skeltons could be on open shown on the main road in Islamabad for all to see. I'm sure the media will fall in to line - cause after all even they have skeltons that they wouldn't want coming out (some of em r tax chor whilst some of em have had ther corruption cases fast tracked through Zardari Nab)
Mate even sme1 like me knows ther are companies in the UK who for the right sum will do a forensic audit of ther assets which will show up the extent of ther corruption. The only issue is do they have the bottle cause that will throw up a lot of garbage n filth which might come ther way as well.
Sorry but i cant understand why they need to go around the bush and come up with Plan B and C when they can expose and malign them in a much easier way. I know Musharaf was an evil so and so and really screwed up the country but his biggest crime alongside the war on terror capitulation was not finishing of the Sharifs n Bhuttos bn Choudharies for good.
Last edited by imyrathore; 05-Jun-2012 at 11:52 PM.
@sherazinayat Bud u can say whatever u want and throw insults but i know one thing for sure anyone who supports a leadership that is corrupt and inept is no better than them. Anyways i know the basic mantra of ur leadership which also applies to the cronies and slaves and that is when u cant have an intelligent debate u will resort to bad mouthing. Well i will kill the conversation here because i dont tend to argue with idiots or slaves.
@imyrathore English beri bolty ho mujay b bohat ati hai per i use roman kion k i want k meri baat bohat say logon ko convey ho...any way this is not an issue...u know lot about my leadership.......well tum log internet pay search ker k apna frame of mind bunaty ho.....aur mister khan jiss ko sirf nawaz shairf nazer a rha hai....waja saaf hai kion k nawaz sharif he wo wahid dewaar hai jo khan ko kabhi upper jany nahe day gee..her waqt nawaz sharif ka rona rota hai tumhra khan kabhi Nawaz Sharif k moon say sun ahai khan ka naam???????????? nahe na....is ki simple reason yeh hai k u r no issue for us.....laken laken aik baat yaad rukho bad languge use kero gay to duma dum mast qalunder ho ga her jugha....aur mister tum b zera dehan say net pay speech kia kero kion k mujay tumhrey gher k adress pata chul gia hai!!!!!!!!!!!! how????????????????? hmmmmm yeh aik secret hai......bohat bao bao kerty ho na tum pti wlaey net pay laken yeh bhool jaty ho k jider ip adress b koi monitor ker raha hota hai.....aur abhi tum beri achi achi batin ker rahy thay na.....mujay yeh b maloom hai k tum kiss say chat aur kon see web sites open ker rahy ho.....is leay sub pti walo juzbat zaroor rukho laken zuban zera dehan say.....suemjh aye!!!!!!!!!!!! acha aisey kerty hain tum say tumhrey gher main tumhrey dad k sameny aik meeting na ho jayee..tum ko b maloom ho jayee ga siasat kia cheez hai?????????????????????? kion bachy reply ka intizaar rhy ga mujay....
24 hours passed still no news for any suicide attempt of showbaz or his elder brother, bohot begherat hen ye, hight of begherti, very sad , duwa karo bhaion behno, juuta parne waala nawaz ko ab, i think it quite clear Lahor is supporting whom ?
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