Zaid Hamid CIA & Raw threats to Pakistan - Must watch and comment.

[casper]

bholthi bhand ho geh

[ambroxo]

read the above

same 4 u .........

[ambroxo]

grow up man........leave ur kazab therory out, to the pointt, name me few people, who were giving us threat anaysis of this magnitude, with proof (if u check post video start of thread its from 2009) stick to the point

if u leave kazzab theory then there is no islam in this world

[ambroxo]

and dont forget it takes balls to say this on the media 5 yrs ago, not like the pussys of today talking about it now, when its in our face......

jann day take balls ..
alex lives in states and also not copy paste like zaid kazzzabia

[ambroxo]

bholthi bhand ho geh

tmhari ya kazzab ky tatuu ki ?

[ASQR1]

It is of no use talking to some people, these people want to destroy patriotic Pakistanis by any mean means they have, Pakistan is a Islamic republic of Pakistan and guarantees every Pakistani the right to practice whatever their belief is as Qaid said you will cease to Muslim or cease to be Hindu..........


so my note to them who are bent alienate patriotic Pakistani who wear the symbol of usmani caliphate are anti Pakistanis.

[xshadow]

زید حامد صاحب کی اچھائیاں اور برائیاں ہمارے سامنے ہیں۔ کوئی یہ سمجھتا ہے کہ ہم آنکھ بند کر کے یقین کرتے ہیں تو یہ خیال چھوڑ دے۔ ہم ہر اس بات پر یقین کریں گے جو قرآن و حدیث سے متصادم نہ ہو۔ چاہے یہ بات کوئی بھی کرے۔
یہ دو ٹکے کے بھانڈ زید حامد کی برائیاں کیوں کرتے ہیں' یہ بھی ہمیں معلوم ہے۔
اتنا ہی پاکستان کا دم بھرتے ہو تو لاو کوئی عالم جو اس طرح امریکہ کی آنکھوں میں آنکھیں ڈال کر بات کرتا ہو۔ دو یا چار بیان امریکہ کے خلاف تو ہر کوئی بول سکتا ہے۔ کوئی اور مثال پیش کرو تاکہ ہم سوچنے پر مجبور ہوجائیں کہ زید حامد صرف اکیلا لیڈر نہیں بلکہ اور بھی لوگ ہیں جو امریکہ کے خلاف اس طرح بات کرسکتے ہیں۔ یاد رہے کہ مثال پیش کرتے ہوئے اس بات کا خیال رکھا جائے کہ اس شخص نے اتنا ہی کام بھارت اور اسرائیل کی سازشوں کے خلاف کر رکھا ہو جن سازشوں کی وجہ سے آج پاکستان میدان جنگ بنا ہوا ہے۔

اگر مثال پیش نہیں کر سکتے تو یہ بک بک بند کر دو۔

ہم کسی نہ کسی کو تو مانتے ہیں نہ جو ہماری حق کی جستجو کو ظاہر کرتا ہے۔ تم کیا لوگ ہو۔ کس لیڈر کو مانتے ہو۔ کبھی تم لوگوں سے یہ نہیں سنا کہ فلاں آدمی حق کی بات کرتا ہے۔ کیا تم لوگوں کا کام اسی طرح مخالفت کرتے رہنا ہے یا کوئی متبادل رہنما بھی دو گے۔

جس شخص نے سیفما جیسے غداروں سے ٹکر لے لی ہے جن کی تاریک خیالی کی ہمائیت پوری دنیا کا کفر کرتا ہے اس شخص کے بارے میں نہ کبھی ڈاکٹر طاہرالقادری نے کوئی فتوہ نہیں دیا۔ نہ کبھی تنظیم اسلامی نے کوئی بات کی جس تنظیم کی خود شریعت کے لیے جدوجہد رہتی ہے۔ اب وہ لوگ جو پہلے سے شریعت کا پرچار کر رہے ہیں انہیں کبھی یہ کہنے کی ضرورت محسوس نہیں ہوئی کہ زید حامد کا معاملہ مشکوک ہے تو تم جیسے جاہلوں کے بیٹوں میں کس چیز کا درد ہے۔
باوجود اس کے کہ زیادہ تر مزہبی حلقے یا دینی جماعتیں یوسف علی کو عدالت کے فیصلے کے مطابق کزاب سمجھتے ہیں مگر کوئی ایک بھی زید حامد پر انگلی نہیں اٹھاتا کیونکہ وہ تم لوگوں کی طرح جاہل نہیں ہیں۔

ایک اشرفی کی مثال لے کر آئے تھے مگر شرم پھر بھی نہیں آئی جب اشرفی سارے سیفما کے سانپوں کے ساتھ زرداری سے ہاتھ ملارہا تھا۔

زید حامد کا بد ترین مخالف حسن نثار بھی صرف زید حامد کے خیالات سے اختلاف کرتا ہے مگر کبھی اس نے بھی زید حامد پر وہ الزام نہیں لگایا جو کہ یہ مداری صبح شام لگاتے ہیں۔

ویسے آپ تمام مداری حضرات کا شکریہ کہ ہمیں وہ مقصد بھولنے نہیں دیتے جو آپ کو کب کا بھول چکا ہیں۔

[casper]

if u leave kazzab theory then there is no islam in this world

its YOUR theory, everybodys intitled to a theory... but we not talking about that on this thread, can u understand that, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT THIS TIME.

[casper]

jann day take balls ..
alex lives in states and also not copy paste like zaid kazzzabia

and its alex jones and what, this is some phone spying on the video and what ?

He dont belong to pakistan, he,s not protecting our motherland.
Who do u think in more danger alex or zaid ? we have drones flying over us, suside bombers, OBL attacks, cross border raids, jasoc and list gos on..............
tks for ur reply but its a different ballgame.

[casper]

tmhari ya kazzab ky tatuu ki ?

wateva

[anyie1]

i agree with zh

[ambroxo]

its YOUR theory, everybodys intitled to a theory... but we not talking about that on this thread, can u understand that, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT THIS TIME.

its theory of 1st khalifa of Prophet
if he had left masilma and aswad ansi , there would be no islam today
all the ulema of all sects ahl sunnat wal jammat r agreed upon it

[ambroxo]

and its alex jones and what, this is some phone spying on the video and what ?

He dont belong to pakistan, he,s not protecting our motherland.
Who do u think in more danger alex or zaid ? we have drones flying over us, suside bombers, OBL attacks, cross border raids, jasoc and list gos on..............
tks for ur reply but its a different ballgame.

if u can use ur mind i have just given u an example ..

[ASQR1]

Even if zaid hamid has misjudged affia's education, why are u so bent on creating confusion, is it that u want to create confusion so that main topic of the release of Afia is burried in the non sensible debate about her education, it seems that u want Afia' s education discussed and not her release which is what Mr. Zaid Hamid is talking about.

It looks that someone here is towing the line of those who want to let Afia rot in jail and are bringing silly things such as her education and not her release.


What a way to go, Afia's release is the topic and not her education, so stop confusing the matter.

[Khalid]

TV journalism's Aafia mafia

Dr Aafia has been hijacked and not just by the Americans, who had her flown to the US and gave her a dubiously excessive punishment for attempted murder, but by the Pakistani media itself


Zaid Hamid immediately went off on an amazing tale of why the Americans (http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12...don%E2%80%99t/) were after Dr Aafia. He explained that she was a neurologist who had biological weapons’ knowledge that the Americans were afraid of, and that her Indian MIT students were complicit in the frame-up and even went to question her in jail in Afghanistan. I like fiction, but this is too much. Dr Aafia’s two children are in the custody of her family, with one missing, but in the programme the killing of two children was being stated as fact.

To this hogwash Meher Bokhari said nothing, and it looked like she was ready to let things slide until Dr Aafia’s sister said that her sister has a PhD in education, specifically on learning by imitation. Senator Talha then, despite having just heard this, and having been on jaunts to the US on government money to see Dr Aafia in person, said Dr Aafia’s PhD was on lining up “discarded” children.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/61232/tv...s-aafia-mafia/



Aafia's Research :
She is also a neuroscientist and co-authored a scientific paper (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12974569) in 2005 on the cognitive science of imitation learning.

Finally, the researchers ran an experiment where the disc appeared only at the beginning and end of each straight line, or when it was turning a corner. This had virtually no impact on performance. Participants were almost equally as good with much less information.
The research helps us understand the limits of learning when we need to copy a certain action sequence, be this tying shoelaces, swinging a golf club or learning tai chi.
The study suggests that for short action sequences we may be better off waiting until we watch the whole thing before attempting it ourselves.

http://mindhacks.com/2008/08/13/fbis...-on-imitation/

Even if zaid hamid has misjudged affia's education, why are u so bent on creating confusion, is it that u want to create confusion so that main topic of the release of Afia is burried in the non sensible debate about her education, it seems that u want Afia' s education discussed and not her release which is what Mr. Zaid Hamid is talking about.

It looks that someone here is towing the line of those who want to let Afia rot in jail and are bringing silly things such as her education and not her release.


What a way to go, Afia's release is the topic and not her education, so stop confusing the matter.

[ASQR1]

TV journalism's Aafia mafia

Dr Aafia has been hijacked and not just by the Americans, who had her flown to the US and gave her a dubiously excessive punishment for attempted murder, but by the Pakistani media itself


Zaid Hamid immediately went off on an amazing tale of why the Americans (http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12...s-don’t/) were after Dr Aafia. He explained that she was a neurologist who had biological weapons’ knowledge that the Americans were afraid of, and that her Indian MIT students were complicit in the frame-up and even went to question her in jail in Afghanistan. I like fiction, but this is too much. Dr Aafia’s two children are in the custody of her family, with one missing, but in the programme the killing of two children was being stated as fact.

To this hogwash Meher Bokhari said nothing, and it looked like she was ready to let things slide until Dr Aafia’s sister said that her sister has a PhD in education, specifically on learning by imitation. Senator Talha then, despite having just heard this, and having been on jaunts to the US on government money to see Dr Aafia in person, said Dr Aafia’s PhD was on lining up “discarded” children.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/61232/tv...s-aafia-mafia/



Aafia's Research :
She is also a neuroscientist and co-authored a scientific paper (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12974569) in 2005 on the cognitive science of imitation learning.

Finally, the researchers ran an experiment where the disc appeared only at the beginning and end of each straight line, or when it was turning a corner. This had virtually no impact on performance. Participants were almost equally as good with much less information.
The research helps us understand the limits of learning when we need to copy a certain action sequence, be this tying shoelaces, swinging a golf club or learning tai chi.
The study suggests that for short action sequences we may be better off waiting until we watch the whole thing before attempting it ourselves.

http://mindhacks.com/2008/08/13/fbis...-on-imitation/

How many times I have to repeat, the intent here is to ask for freeodom of Afia legaly and moraly, and not the education of her, can u guys not get it.

[Khalid]

Dr Aafia has been hijacked and not just by the Americans, who had her flown to the US and gave her a dubiously excessive punishment for attempted murder, but by the Pakistani media itself

How many times I have to repeat, the intent here is to ask for freeodom of Afia legaly and moraly, and not the education of her, can u guys not get it.

[ASQR1]

Dr Aafia has been hijacked and not just by the Americans, who had her flown to the US and gave her a dubiously excessive punishment for attempted murder, but by the Pakistani media itself

again u confuse the matter, matter is her release from jail by legal and moral actions asking our ally to be compassionate and be considerate of her being in incarceration for long enough. asking that she has paid the dues by being in jail.

and that is what Zaid Hamid is asking, his info about her education may not be correct but his heart is at the right place as he is concern about a Pakistani woman.

[casper]

its theory of 1st khalifa of Prophet
if he had left masilma and aswad ansi , there would be no islam today
all the ulema of all sects ahl sunnat wal jammat r agreed upon it

ur on the wrong forum mate, u need to be on a forum to unite all the sects and lecture em, uv just attacking zaid, ive told you b4 email em him (zaid) and publish it here with his reply, dont give it the large on here.

i simply dont belive the alegations against him thats it, so beat it

[casper]

if u can use ur mind i have just given u an example ..

i think you are not using ur mind, trying using it, ITS A DIFFERENT BALLGAME