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    The Great Provincial Divide - My 1st NON-Economics Article at The News -




    http://blogs.thenews.com.pk/blogs/20...incial-divide/


    The Great Provincial Divide







    There have been recent talks about creating a new province for better administration “for the Saraiki-speaking citizens”. Apparently, dividing citizens of a country based on language would serve better administrative purpose. Let’s accept this argument for the sake of simplicity and step back into the time when Pakistan was created. Upon creation, Pakistan was divided into four provinces, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan and the NWFP. The creation was based on race and language. Sixty-five years have passed since creation and Pakistan has yet to reconcile its racial identity. Has the Government not learnt anything?



    It absolutely has. Politicians are born with the instinct to rule, no-matter what the cost. Divide and rule always comes in handy. If a government which thrives on feudalism, can be divided on race and language for 65 years, there’s no better way to expand the already proven policy of divide and rule.



    If the government is truly interested in addressing administrative efficiencies and wants to ‘unite’ Pakistan, here’s a solution to address both these issues within the same policy framework: Consolidate all four language based provinces under the Federal Charter and divide all the land in Pakistan into 1 square mile grids. Now, simply add up the grids till the population headcount reaches 100,000. Make that collection of grids, with 100,000 headcounts, a ‘municipality’. Each municipality should have its own court, police, school, water and fire department and a sales tax code for revenue generation to fund services to its citizens. These municipalities would hold their own elections and those elected officials would then be available to answer to the needs and concerns of the citizens of those municipalities. This same municipality would also tie into the federal voting process. No longer would a federal government be responsible for keeping a count of all the citizens in the whole country. Every municipality would be responsible for keeping a track on headcounts within its municipality.



    This is one of the many practical solutions available to Pakistan. The problem isn’t the lack of solutions. Instead, the problem is lack of trust in leadership and political capital. It’s not enough to elect a leader with a vision but to stay focused and remain involved. Most of the time, it’s the voters that turn against the very leader they have elected because too many voters benefit from the existing system in place.



    If western countries can absorb immigrants of all different backgrounds, why does Pakistan seem to have a problem consolidating identity in its citizens? As long as the Pakistani identity remains divided, reforms in education, economy and healthcare are pointless.



    Pakistani citizens should demand these mandates from their elected representatives. Teachers should teach their students of ideas beyond what the syllabus covers. Maybe not today, but lets plan for tomorrow, if we want to see a tomorrow.


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    Someone reminded me of a speech from Jinnah. I'll share it with you'll. You decide!

    So what is the use of saying, ‘We are Bengalis, or Sindhis, or Pathans, or Punjabis.’ No, we are Muslims. Islam has taught us this, and I think you will agree with me, that whatever else you may be and whatever you are, you are a Muslim. You belong to a nation now; you have now carved out a territory, vast territory, it is all yours; it does not belong to Punjabis or a Sindhi, or a Pathan, or a Bengali; it is your….Provincialism has been one of the curses; and so is sectionalism --- Shia, Sunni, etc…Now I ask you to get rid of this provincialism, because as long as you allow this poison to remain in the body politics of Pakistan, believe me, you will never be a strong nation, and you will never be able to achieve what I wish we could achieve.

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    This can happen if the leaders have vision.....but the leaders are blind hence no vision......In the past people proposed abolishing the provinces and settling with just district. Can follow our own American County system of government...why reinvent the wheel

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    Perfect solutions to start with no argument.

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    This is exactly what I have proposed. The American County. I actually used the word county but then replaced it with Muni. Didnt want people to think of county as country. That would create alot of hostile reactions.

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    This can happen if the leaders have vision.....but the leaders are blind hence no vision......In the past people proposed abolishing the provinces and settling with just district. Can follow our own American County system of government...why reinvent the wheel
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    agreeeed.. im agaisnt naming of a province with ethnicity.. as all the people living in that province are not sindhis or balochis..... provinces shud be based on administration and all shud be renamed to irrelevant names with no link to ethnicty... hard job will be to convinc the dharti maa sindh card.... just rename and divide...
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    http://blogs.thenews.com.pk/blogs/20...incial-divide/


    The Great Provincial Divide







    There have been recent talks about creating a new province for better administration “for the Saraiki-speaking citizens”. Apparently, dividing citizens of a country based on language would serve better administrative purpose. Let’s accept this argument for the sake of simplicity and step back into the time when Pakistan was created. Upon creation, Pakistan was divided into four provinces, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan and the NWFP. The creation was based on race and language. Sixty-five years have passed since creation and Pakistan has yet to reconcile its racial identity. Has the Government not learnt anything?



    It absolutely has. Politicians are born with the instinct to rule, no-matter what the cost. Divide and rule always comes in handy. If a government which thrives on feudalism, can be divided on race and language for 65 years, there’s no better way to expand the already proven policy of divide and rule.



    If the government is truly interested in addressing administrative efficiencies and wants to ‘unite’ Pakistan, here’s a solution to address both these issues within the same policy framework: Consolidate all four language based provinces under the Federal Charter and divide all the land in Pakistan into 1 square mile grids. Now, simply add up the grids till the population headcount reaches 100,000. Make that collection of grids, with 100,000 headcounts, a ‘municipality’. Each municipality should have its own court, police, school, water and fire department and a sales tax code for revenue generation to fund services to its citizens. These municipalities would hold their own elections and those elected officials would then be available to answer to the needs and concerns of the citizens of those municipalities. This same municipality would also tie into the federal voting process. No longer would a federal government be responsible for keeping a count of all the citizens in the whole country. Every municipality would be responsible for keeping a track on headcounts within its municipality.



    This is one of the many practical solutions available to Pakistan. The problem isn’t the lack of solutions. Instead, the problem is lack of trust in leadership and political capital. It’s not enough to elect a leader with a vision but to stay focused and remain involved. Most of the time, it’s the voters that turn against the very leader they have elected because too many voters benefit from the existing system in place.



    If western countries can absorb immigrants of all different backgrounds, why does Pakistan seem to have a problem consolidating identity in its citizens? As long as the Pakistani identity remains divided, reforms in education, economy and healthcare are pointless.



    Pakistani citizens should demand these mandates from their elected representatives. Teachers should teach their students of ideas beyond what the syllabus covers. Maybe not today, but lets plan for tomorrow, if we want to see a tomorrow.


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    are you kidding! if they follow you idea 90% of old politicians will be out of their job.
    it will be a matter of life and death if we try to do that.
    we are a failed state for a reason you know!


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    So lets make a new slogan for the next protest in Pakistan

    Politicians are those people who would be enormously improved by death.

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    are you kidding! if they follow you idea 90% of old politicians will be out of their job.
    it will be a matter of life and death if we try to do that.
    we are a failed state for a reason you know!
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    You better suggest how to get green card and duel nationality for Pakistanies ? More then half the youg Pakistanies
    will run away to the masters of the masters imposed on us in Pakistan.
    Our rulinge elite brown NRO govt and corrupt politions are main problem. They are stooges of englishers and real sovereignty
    has never been given to Pakistan after the murder of Liaqat Ali Khan.
    Perhaps, some good leader will follow you in the future for good suggestions, but at the moment the time is not appropriate
    to discuss such issues as the country is tackling 4th generation warfare.

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    @AsifAmeer
    Why the bottom portion of your map looking like a hand
    and pointing a finger at you? What did you do this time Asif?
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    US entry for a Pakistani? You have better chances of winning a date with Jessica Biel.

    Without solving the underlying problems, Pakistan is like a broken bucket in which everyone is trying to fill water.

    Hey do let me know how ur 4th degeneration warfare is going.

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    You better suggest how to get green card and duel nationality for Pakistanies ? More then half the youg Pakistanies
    will run away to the masters of the masters imposed on us in Pakistan.
    Our rulinge elite brown NRO govt and corrupt politions are main problem. They are stooges of englishers and real sovereignty
    has never been given to Pakistan after the murder of Liaqat Ali Khan.
    Perhaps, some good leader will follow you in the future for good suggestions, but at the moment the time is not appropriate
    to discuss such issues as the country is tackling 4th generation warfare.
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    Consolidate all four language based provinces under the Federal Charter and divide all the land in Pakistan into 1 square mile grids. Now, simply add up the grids till the population headcount reaches 100,000. Make that collection of grids, with 100,000 headcounts, a ‘municipality’. Each municipality should have its own court, police, school, water and fire department and a sales tax code for revenue generation to fund services to its citizens
    Asif bro,
    Neither the Indian leadership nor Quaid-e-Azam were smart enough to think of this idea: denying the reality of ethnic units (states/provinces) , and just enforcing arbitrary 'had-bandi'.. This might look good on paper (even there I doubt it), but in reality, we are better off following the Indian model (which is: create provinces/states if enough people want them!)


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    TheNew Editor chose the pic. U want me to change it to Zardari? ...? huh?

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    I dont know about that. I heard Jinnah's speeches and he clearly stated his views about the racial identities that Pakistan doesnt belong to a Sindi Punjabi Pathan or Baloch but to a Pakistani. And that ur a Pakistani 1st. It wud not suprise me if I were to find out that Jinnah had a vision of this sort of Land reform for Pakistan. I got no skin in the game. I visit Pakistan once a decade. But it surely hurts to see Pakistani citizens on TV. And thats the least I can do - Write about issues by simplifying them. If I can ignite a spark of vision in 1 Pakistani, its efforts paid off 10 folds.

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    Asif bro,
    Neither the Indian leadership nor Quaid-e-Azam were smart enough to think of this idea: denying the reality of ethnic units (states/provinces) , and just enforcing arbitrary 'had-bandi'.. This might look good on paper (even there I doubt it), but in reality, we are better off following the Indian model (which is: create provinces/states if enough people want them!)
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    http://blogs.thenews.com.pk/blogs/20...incial-divide/


    The Great Provincial Divide







    There have been recent talks about creating a new province for better administration “for the Saraiki-speaking citizens”. Apparently, dividing citizens of a country based on language would serve better administrative purpose. Let’s accept this argument for the sake of simplicity and step back into the time when Pakistan was created. Upon creation, Pakistan was divided into four provinces, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan and the NWFP. The creation was based on race and language. Sixty-five years have passed since creation and Pakistan has yet to reconcile its racial identity. Has the Government not learnt anything?



    It absolutely has. Politicians are born with the instinct to rule, no-matter what the cost. Divide and rule always comes in handy. If a government which thrives on feudalism, can be divided on race and language for 65 years, there’s no better way to expand the already proven policy of divide and rule.



    If the government is truly interested in addressing administrative efficiencies and wants to ‘unite’ Pakistan, here’s a solution to address both these issues within the same policy framework: Consolidate all four language based provinces under the Federal Charter and divide all the land in Pakistan into 1 square mile grids. Now, simply add up the grids till the population headcount reaches 100,000. Make that collection of grids, with 100,000 headcounts, a ‘municipality’. Each municipality should have its own court, police, school, water and fire department and a sales tax code for revenue generation to fund services to its citizens. These municipalities would hold their own elections and those elected officials would then be available to answer to the needs and concerns of the citizens of those municipalities. This same municipality would also tie into the federal voting process. No longer would a federal government be responsible for keeping a count of all the citizens in the whole country. Every municipality would be responsible for keeping a track on headcounts within its municipality.



    This is one of the many practical solutions available to Pakistan. The problem isn’t the lack of solutions. Instead, the problem is lack of trust in leadership and political capital. It’s not enough to elect a leader with a vision but to stay focused and remain involved. Most of the time, it’s the voters that turn against the very leader they have elected because too many voters benefit from the existing system in place.



    If western countries can absorb immigrants of all different backgrounds, why does Pakistan seem to have a problem consolidating identity in its citizens? As long as the Pakistani identity remains divided, reforms in education, economy and healthcare are pointless.



    Pakistani citizens should demand these mandates from their elected representatives. Teachers should teach their students of ideas beyond what the syllabus covers. Maybe not today, but lets plan for tomorrow, if we want to see a tomorrow.


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    Good article.

    Make sure you submit your writings to http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/ too because it seems to have much better online audience compared to The News.

    We need more exposure for quality stuff.

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    "Upon creation, Pakistan was divided into four provinces, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan and the NWFP. The creation was based on race and language. Sixty-five years have passed since creation and Pakistan has yet to reconcile its racial identity. Has the Government not learnt anything?" Amir where did you get this one, all the present day provinces were in United India way back. All four provicnes have geat history to back them. Latest talk about more provinces is more to with ethnic disease MQM is spreading, period. I have migrated to USA for a good reason i.e. economic and career opportunities, and this country has been good to us. I did not have to sacrifice to immigrate, I made that move volunterrily. Same way people who sacrificed for Pakistan 1947, got what they wanted Pakistan and more. People who migrated from India after the 50's came for the same reasons but under different circumstances. You know it as well I do that key to migration assimmilation, we have assimilated into mainstream America, without giving up our religious beliefs and thats how it should be. My forefathers migrated from India and settled in Punjab, we have learnt the language and are totally assimilated. Our whole family is now Punjabi, thats our home. People who migrated later on to Sindh have not done so. Hence this problem in the urban areas of Sindh. They consider themselves a superior race to others. When they talk about dividing or more provinces they mean cut the rest of Pakistan into so many pieces, so that Hyderbad and Karachi are the biggest provinces and that I assure you will never happen. Thats why Altaf the traitor say he against dividing (for the time being) sindh, but lets divide Punjab, KP and Balouchistan.


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    u got a contact person there? I hate writing without know whether they'll publish it or not. I wrote to DAWN. They printed it but didnt bother telling me. ANd they chopped my article. Now no one wud touch the article bcoz DAWN published half of it! With The New, I send it directly to their staff. They confirm it.

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    Good article.

    Make sure you submit your writings to http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/ too because it seems to have much better online audience compared to The News.

    We need more exposure for quality stuff.
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    Oho! from Orlando! Dude.. I am pissed at your State! Romney? Really? ROMNEY? I mean if something acts like Obama, thinks like Obama, talks/walks like Obama, its Romney! Did u vote?

    On the MQM rant. Almost no disagreement. Notice they used to be MUHAJIR Qaumi movement, then it got changed to Mutahidda Qaumi. Thats like renaming the Nazi party to National Socialist Party to cater to the jewish vote!

    I didnt say that provinces were made after the creation. I am saying Pakistan just too over a status quo. There is a saying in the Fixed Income trading, "No such thing as a shiny turd". Thats what they tried to do. Maintain a status quo. In no way am I suggesting breaking the provinces. I am saying break down the Ministries of these provinces. Break them down, liquidate them. Instead make hundreds of Munis with their own infrastructure. That way accountability is in the voters reach. But I know very well this idea would be considered nothing less than Blasphemy in Pakistan. Alot of vested interest of the elites.


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    "Upon creation, Pakistan was divided into four provinces, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan and the NWFP. The creation was based on race and language. Sixty-five years have passed since creation and Pakistan has yet to reconcile its racial identity. Has the Government not learnt anything?" Amir where did you get this one, all the present day provinces were in United India way back. All four provicnes have geat history to back them. Latest talk about more provinces is more to with ethnic disease MQM is spreading, period. I have migrated to USA for a good reason i.e. economic and career opportunities, and this country has been good to us. I did not have to sacrifice to immigrate, I made that move volunterrily. Same way people who sacrificed for Pakistan 1947, got what they wanted Pakistan and more. People who migrated from India after the 50's came for the same reasons but under different circumstances. You know it as well I do that key to migration assimmilation, we have assimilated into mainstream America, without giving up our religious beliefs and thats how it should be. My forefathers migrated from India and settled in Punjab, we have learnt the language and are totally assimilated. Our whole family is now Punjabi, thats our home. People who migrated later on to Sindh have not done so. Hence this problem in the urban areas of Sindh. They consider themselves a superior race to others. When they talk about dividing or more provinces they mean cut the rest of Pakistan into so many pieces, so that Hyderbad and Karachi are the biggest provinces and that I assure you will never happen. Thats why Altaf the traitor say he against dividing (for the time being) sindh, but lets divide Punjab, KP and Balouchistan.
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    Pakistan was not divided into 4 provinces, rather it was created by the people of four provinces, not to change their nationality and become one nation (Pakistani) but to live under sharia Law.


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    i have been saying this again and aghain that this all activity recently to divide particularly the punjab province into four five provinces( based purely on ethnic language) is a conspiracy to weaken pakistani federation and ultimately break pakistan into 5 independent nations or so by 2015 or so...thats why anti pakistan parties like mqm are most noisy supporters of this new provinces creation and they have sent bills in parliament even to divide punjan and kpk where mqm has not even one parliament serat even!

    if you look back at yugoslavia,czechoslovakia and former soviet union,in all these countries before they were broken a constitutional amendment like 18th was passed.giving provinces more and more powers untill they were given power to even become free nations.

    punjab as the biggest populated province (with all ethnicities living here in every city of it) in its intact form holds all pakistan together,thats why a balochi freedom fighters son once told that our first goal to to divide and weaken punjab,after that breaking of pakistan and freeing balochistan will be much easier.


    javaid hashmi like people who have good reputation but support dividing punjab on ethnic bases have their own evil agenda,which we will know soon inshalah....pakistan is an unlucky country which has been damaged the worse by so called shareefs like javaid hashmi.
    makhdooms and gailanais etc are also vocal about creating sraikistan so that ther children also become kings of seraikistan ..though these same politician of seraiki area are teh main reason that seraiki area is not that developed.

    anyway those who want to see pakistan intact beware,this creation of many new provinces is a conspiracy to open a pandoras box of fitna and ethnic confrontations that will ultimately break pakistan right according to scedule by CIA and RAW plan


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    Quote Originally Posted by AsifAmeer View Post
    US entry for a Pakistani? You have better chances of winning a date with Jessica Biel.

    Without solving the underlying problems, Pakistan is like a broken bucket in which everyone is trying to fill water.

    Hey do let me know how ur 4th degeneration warfare is going.
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