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Geek
25-Jul-2011, 08:48 PM
This is a very interesting dialouge between a soldier molvi who has some good knowledge about Deen and a takfeeri mufti. the mufti is justifying the killing of innocent people and call all those murtid who don't accept their ideology. even he called Imam e kaaba a puppit and munafiq.



http://youtu.be/Tot3nk1-6vo





http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cciyl_conversation-between-a-soldier-maulvi-and-takfeeri-mufti_news

virus
25-Jul-2011, 09:43 PM
is mufti nay to hum sub ko murtaed bana diya bhai :(:(:(:(

yeh mufti nahe balkay zeehni mareez hay :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: muslamano ki sub say muqadas jaga khana qaba
ALLAH ki zaat jisse 20 martba rehmat ki nazar say dekhtay hain usay apne ghar jane ki tufeeq atta fermatay hain ur jo shaks hay hi har waqat us ghar main to woh keasay ghalat ho sakta hay

Salik
25-Jul-2011, 09:48 PM
استغفرالله

patriot
25-Jul-2011, 10:02 PM
you can't reason with someone who doesn't use his reason.
He is like an animal, no,even worse than that.

onlykami
25-Jul-2011, 10:29 PM
main waisay tu donon k mukhalif hon per waisay fauji k pass aik b daleel nai thi

Waseem
26-Jul-2011, 12:02 AM
main waisay tu donon k mukhalif hon per waisay fauji k pass aik b daleel nai thi

Jahil ke baat ka jawab kisi ke pass nahi hota, meray muslaman ya kafir honay ka faisla Allah ne kernay hay, kisi jahil mullah ne nahi.
Keya aap ne notice keya fauji ne aik bar bhi nahi kaha k tum murtid ya kafir ho jub ke wo mullah bar bar na sirf uss fauji ko balkay
tum muslmano ko kafir keh raha tha jo ke uss ke idelogy ko nahi manatay. aab aap he batain aisay insan se aap kis terha behas ker
saktay hain jo aap ko muslman he nahi manta?

onlykami
26-Jul-2011, 12:17 AM
aap super moderator hain aur sath hi main meri posts & threads k dushman isi lya baat kartay huay darta hon, khair main pehlay hi keh chuka hon k main donon k khilaf hon so main kisi ki side nai lay raha hon aap nay jo kaha baja hai per is k ilawa ki baat kar raha hon k fauhi apnay aap ko kisi taur us mulla say behtar sabit nai kar saka


Jahil ke baat ka jawab kisi ke pass nahi hota, meray muslaman ya kafir honay ka faisla Allah ne kernay hay, kisi jahil mullah ne nahi.
Keya aap ne notice keya fauji ne aik bar bhi nahi kaha k tum murtid ya kafir ho jub ke wo mullah bar bar na sirf uss fauji ko balkay
tum muslmano ko kafir keh raha tha jo ke uss ke idelogy ko nahi manatay. aab aap he batain aisay insan se aap kis terha behas ker
saktay hain jo aap ko muslman he nahi manta?

biomat
26-Jul-2011, 12:20 AM
Jahil ke baat ka jawab kisi ke pass nahi hota, meray muslaman ya kafir honay ka faisla Allah ne kernay hay, kisi jahil mullah ne nahi.
Keya aap ne notice keya fauji ne aik bar bhi nahi kaha k tum murtid ya kafir ho jub ke wo mullah bar bar na sirf uss fauji ko balkay
tum muslmano ko kafir keh raha tha jo ke uss ke idelogy ko nahi manatay. aab aap he batain aisay insan se aap kis terha behas ker
saktay hain jo aap ko muslman he nahi manta?
Assalam-o-alaikum
Waseem bhai i didnot expect this reply from you. As this is audio clip that is not knowing who is aalim & who is fauji.
Many brothers have posted similar youtube videos in which two different maulanas are fighting..
So point is WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD..
What army doing is correct or not.. (similar videos are being posted on this site)
What mullahs doing are correct or not.. (similar videos posted on this site)
Point is that IS BEING A MUNAFIQUE OK. DO WE NEED FATWA FROM MAULANA or WE CAN JUDGE OUR SELVES.
EVERY ONE HAVE TO GO INTO HIS or HER GRAVE. IF ANY MULLAH OR AALIM IS SPREADING FALSE & HATE HE WILL FACE ALLAH WRATH or JAZA/SAZA..
So spread words of love & peace.. Dont create more hate & be part of this crime..
I know for some this is juicy topic to start a thread & post videos to start cursing MULLAH, ISLAM, MUSLIM etc etc..
Sorry if i have hurt any one.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAH

Faiza
26-Jul-2011, 12:20 AM
لاحول ولا قوته إلا بالله

Waseem
26-Jul-2011, 02:13 AM
aap super moderator hain aur sath hi main meri posts & threads k dushman isi lya baat kartay huay darta hon, khair main pehlay hi keh chuka hon k main donon k khilaf hon so main kisi ki side nai lay raha hon aap nay jo kaha baja hai per is k ilawa ki baat kar raha hon k fauhi apnay aap ko kisi taur us mulla say behtar sabit nai kar saka

Janab aap bayfiker rahain mai kisi ko ikhtlaf e raye ke wja se kisi ke sath imitiyzi salook nahi kerta.

Pehli baat tou yeah hay ke zaroori nahi ke dono ke pass aik jaisa ilm ho, ab ager aik mufti hay aur dosra aik aam fauji jawan tou dono ka koe muqabla banta nahi. noujwan ne apni se koshish ke, zati tou pe mai ussi ke baat ko theek samjhta houn.

Aap ko uss nujawan ke batoun pe ihtraz hay ya sirf uss ke fauji honay ke wja say aap uss ke khialf hain?

Waseem
26-Jul-2011, 03:18 AM
Assalam-o-alaikum
Wa'alikum as salam bhai.


Waseem bhai i didnot expect this reply from you.

Sorry bhai didn't get you, did I say something wrong, bahi I respect all ulemas but I just didn't like the way that mufti was lcalling everyone as kafir and murtid he is no one to decide this.


As this is audio clip that is not knowing who is aalim & who is fauji.
Many brothers have posted similar youtube videos in which two different maulanas are fighting..
So point is WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD..

I don't know, thread op can tell us better why did he post it here, and about who is alim and who is fauji I believe the one who is asking question is fauji and the other person who was replying was a talban's mufti, who was calling everybody a kafir.


What army doing is correct or not.. (similar videos are being posted on this site)

If the army is killing thos who want to impose their idelogy and playing in the hands of our enemies then I think army is doing right thing.


What mullahs doing are correct or not.. (similar videos posted on this site)

If you are asking about the one we just heard the one who is replying, then offcourse they are not corrct



Point is that IS BEING A MUNAFIQUE OK. DO WE NEED FATWA FROM MAULANA or WE CAN JUDGE OUR SELVES.
EVERY ONE HAVE TO GO INTO HIS or HER GRAVE. IF ANY MULLAH OR AALIM IS SPREADING FALSE & HATE HE WILL FACE ALLAH WRATH or JAZA/SAZA..
So spread words of love & peace.. Dont create more hate & be part of this crime..


I know for some this is juicy topic to start a thread & post videos to start cursing MULLAH, ISLAM, MUSLIM etc etc..
Sorry if i have hurt any one.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAH

Bhai I agree with you that we should spread love and peace but at the same time I would say that we should expose these elements because are the people who are damaging the image of islam.

Jazak Allah e Khair
Wsalam

pak4rule
26-Jul-2011, 04:13 AM
Waseem
when anything posted against a mulla, people like to EXPOSE such elements with full force and love to say whatever bad words they could use without giving it a thought that posting/pointing about such useless conversations like this only benefit those who are ready to create confusion in minds of our youth about islam and create hate for every maulana and stop them from learning Islam. Also by including all Ulema/ Alim and saying bad things for them , we also not doing justice and consider ourselves soooooooooo informative and rightly chosen to declare all bad, dont thinking of its after effects at all .

but on other hand when anyone trying to EXPOSE any military , army crook/criminal/ , so called wise people like you start advising to be careful not to expose or discuss as it may harm country/nation.

My God , religion is now so low priority in our lives ?

If you love to EXPOSE elements harming religion/country/ nation then please stop such hypocrisy.

Get some sense all of you please.

moazzamniaz
26-Jul-2011, 04:30 AM
Here is the 2nd part of this conversation. According to TTP clergy, kidnappings for ransom and bank heists are permissible. He is thankful to God for Kashmir earthquake and 2010 flood calamity. Massacre of Pakistani children and women is permissible. Every thing is OK.

http://ia700501.us.archive.org/25/items/Mufti_733/FawjimuftiMubahasa-2.mp3

pak4rule
26-Jul-2011, 04:45 AM
only idiots will think TTP run by mullas, every person with sense knows that TTP is a group run by intelligence agencies of enimies of Pakistan, with the main cause to harm pakistan in all ways including infusing hatred towards Islamic rules and Ulemas.

onlykami
26-Jul-2011, 07:30 PM
main fauj ki mulk dushmani aur specially islam dushmani ki policies k khilaf hon aur wo fauji us system ko defend kar raha hai isi lya main us k khilaf hon


Janab aap bayfiker rahain mai kisi ko ikhtlaf e raye ke wja se kisi ke sath imitiyzi salook nahi kerta.

Pehli baat tou yeah hay ke zaroori nahi ke dono ke pass aik jaisa ilm ho, ab ager aik mufti hay aur dosra aik aam fauji jawan tou dono ka koe muqabla banta nahi. noujwan ne apni se koshish ke, zati tou pe mai ussi ke baat ko theek samjhta houn.

Aap ko uss nujawan ke batoun pe ihtraz hay ya sirf uss ke fauji honay ke wja say aap uss ke khialf hain?

urdu_man
26-Jul-2011, 09:13 PM
Is tape se Pakistan mein molvi hazrat ki jahalat ka pata chal sakta hai

biomat
26-Jul-2011, 09:56 PM
Assalam-o-alaikum
Waseem bhai, thanks for your point of view. That this fauji bhai is busy asking questions from TTP MULLAH for so long & they didnot intercepted his location.
They should have made a CGI VIDEO of it, would be worth watching. Just two days another FAUJI MULLAH;s drunken speech was released in ASMA CH program. He was using ISLAM, KALIMA for 71 war.. WOW.. worth listening..
So why these faujis dont take action against these traitors within their ranks..
I am not supporting TTP, or those who throw fatwas of KAFIR , MURTID etc etc.. But why ISLAM, MUSLIM are attacked so violently.. WHATS THE PURPOSE??
Sorry for all this..

itsnotme90
27-Jul-2011, 12:53 AM
its really sad musharraf took decision against taliban & brought usa here then taliban turn agaisnt anti pakistan plus CIA & RAW start using their agents to influence taliban againts pakistan & it all got dirty now. How will u justify killing in lal masjid & nobody from government ever apologize over those killings

w-a-n-t-e-d-
27-Jul-2011, 02:18 AM
MashahAllah bara he baybak molvi hai (y)


yeh puri audio kahan milaygi bhai

w-a-n-t-e-d-
27-Jul-2011, 02:27 AM
80karor $ ki imdad wasool karny k leyh 80+ jausoso ko visa isue karna kis leyh ???(bigsmile)

Afiya Ko Bech K Bhi Inko Apny Haq main fatwa chaeyh ?? Na-mumkin

Truth_Hurts
27-Jul-2011, 03:11 AM
astagfarullah.. no wonder these people are giving bad names to Holy prophet pbuh and islam.. All these molvis of lal masjid and taliban astagfarullah.. he has distorted Quran and hadiths astagfarullah.. he is making hazoor pbuh the most curel man in world nazubillah..

M Ali Khan
23-Aug-2011, 04:35 AM
Yeh purani thread ko waapis laaney mein maafi chahta hoon

But I was about to post a new thread when I heard this MP3 being played, but I found the original thread.

Its scary what mazhabi inteha pasandi and a desire to shed blood can lead people to do!

jab inn jaisay takfeeri badmaash Islam k rahbar bantay phirtay hain, tau phir Musalmaanoun ka Khuda hi Hafiz samjhein!

M Ali Khan
23-Aug-2011, 01:53 PM
btw here is PART 2 of this debate

http://ia700501.us.archive.org/25/items/Mufti_733/FawjimuftiMubahasa-2.mp3

and while we are at it, take a look at these releases!!

http://www.google.com.pk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=jundullah+studio&pbx=1&oq=jundullah+studio&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=736l3197l0l3317l16l10l0l3l3l0l444l1624l0.2. 4.0.1l7l0&fp=1&biw=1280&bih=709&cad=b

M Ali Khan
23-Aug-2011, 02:29 PM
Also, why is this thread in International section??

This should be in domestic section since it deals directly with TTP vs Pak Army

Doctorplato
24-Aug-2011, 03:37 AM
Listen to the horrible ideology of our Taliban and mullahs (Galay kaatna Peghambar ki sunnat hai: Taliban molvi) : http://ia700501.us.archive.org/25/items/Mufti_733/FawjimuftiMubahasa-2.mp3

lovely_pk
24-Aug-2011, 03:48 AM
If you want peace in muslim world, wipe out all those mullah's who present themselves as a doorman of Islam.

KhanHaripur
24-Aug-2011, 04:01 AM
thumb down for ur signature (thumbsdown)
If you want peace in muslim world, wipe out all those mullah's who present themselves as a doorman of Islam.

w-a-n-t-e-d-
24-Aug-2011, 04:08 AM
Ajj Kal Karachi K Talban > ( MQM ppp peopls aman kameeti jasqam ppi anp ) bhi galay kath rahay hain

abb tu video ani shoro hogaee hain kal bhi 2 video upload hoee hain utube pay karachi main zibah ki...

Unicorn
24-Aug-2011, 04:08 AM
I heard yesterday's post about 30 mins conversation. Caller is an amateur no match for this Mullaha.

Unicorn
24-Aug-2011, 04:20 AM
Mr. Chairman should contact this guy so they can ride together for Gazwa Hind. That should be the meeting of minds.

Thanks for the Post very interesting.

lovely_pk
24-Aug-2011, 05:27 AM
thumb down for ur signature (thumbsdown)

Dawn koi Khushi hoye

zishancheeta
24-Aug-2011, 07:50 AM
This mufti is looking himself in miror.
What Musharaf should do at that tiome ? Iraq , Lybia . america is supper power if America support you whole world is with you if America is against you whole world is against you. Just mention the way out that can save the country and turn the situation in favour of country.You rember India and Israel was ready to attack your country.
lal masjid he asked the DNA test of those were killed in action they are (100 about ) killed . Where their parents reletives you can't finde the because they were foreigners.
Musharaf offered CJ to get the DNA and open the case.
Musharaf's military coo was a seperate issue.
you know zulfiqar ali Bhutto was the first who took military action in Balouchistan..
In Lal masjid people were throwing flowers on military when a colonel and other commandos were killd. People get heavy arms in Masjid in Capital and kidnaping foreigners (chines) and chellanging the state authority. What Musharaf shoulkd send Flower and Tea with biscuits for those terrorist.
Why noboby go in gravryard Islamabd and get the DNA test and bring musharaf In court of law.
because they were terrorists with heavy weapons hiding in masjid .
talking is very easy but sitting on hot seat and decide is not easy.
These mufti mouse was unable to blast in side country ( a few ) he kept those people on the bay.
His comming in power was not right as miltryman but what he did for the country was good that why this democratic governament did not change his policies.

Fursan
24-Aug-2011, 12:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OanlxJolmB4

Fursan
24-Aug-2011, 12:57 PM
The fauji should have brought the sayings of Holy Prophet SAW about Kharijis in front of this ******* mufti, to is ****** mufti ka dimagh khulta !!

M Ali Khan
24-Aug-2011, 06:12 PM
Inn jaisay takfeeri hazraat sey mujhe Somalia aur Iraq ki kahanian yaad aati hain

Somali jihadis BANNED cooking and eating of SAMOSAS because they are triangular in shape, and they think that the triangle is representing the Christian doctrine of trinity!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018858/Islamist-group-Somalia-bans-samosas-deciding-theyre-Western.html

in Iraq, jihadis killed shopkeepers for not separating male and female sounding vegetables and fruits on display!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/2538545/Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq-alienated-by-cucumber-laws-and-brutality.html

Wah bhai wah! (clap)

samar
24-Aug-2011, 07:38 PM
ye kon he ore kis madrasey se parha hoa he............jahan ye taleem dee jateee hee.

samar
24-Aug-2011, 07:44 PM
astagfarullah.. no wonder these people are giving bad names to Holy prophet pbuh and islam.. All these molvis of lal masjid and taliban astagfarullah.. he has distorted Quran and hadiths astagfarullah.. he is making hazoor pbuh the most curel man in world nazubillah..

And you would see the political face of these people ............... the one who disliked your post ..........shame on you w-a-n-t-e-d.

zishancheeta
24-Aug-2011, 07:50 PM
He is Muft not mufti

samar
24-Aug-2011, 08:27 PM
intehaeee badd tameeez molvi he....................

alaqsa
24-Aug-2011, 09:43 PM
TTP ka Real taliban se koi taluk nai hay!!!!!!!!!
AOr Army is also killing there own people!!!!!!!!!!

w-a-n-t-e-d-
25-Aug-2011, 01:30 AM
Bilkul 100% molvi ki taed karayingay

Haram khoor Qadyani Kaeenat K BadTareen Kafir Or Murtid Hain ..

w-a-n-t-e-d-
25-Aug-2011, 01:37 AM
http://www.haqqforum.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=31201&stc=1&d=1281721951

samar
25-Aug-2011, 03:16 PM
TTP Esi Haram Khoor Fauj Nay Banaee Thi 1999 Main

humari yadasht etni kamzoor nahi hai karachi main jaga jaga offices kholay thay es k..

yeh tu musharraff nay agent ghosay hain her jaga 1phone call pay apny logo ko dehshat gard bana dea..


TTP dehshat gardh hai tu os k log reha kiuon karay gay ..

karachi say last week comander pakra os k sath aslah baramdagi ka dawa kia gea..

or same day osko rehaa kardea gea for what ???


yeh jitna qatl-e-amm TTP k naam pay horaha hai yeh shiuon ki mehdi malasia karti hai ..


army ki shia officers karwatay hain...


TTP k naam pay jitni websites bani hoee hai sab k material ko read karlo sari salfiuon ki tehreer hai wo
shekh nasir albani waghera say hadith ko rewaeyat kia gea hai her artical main...


TTP k naam say bani websites say bhi humara koe taluq nahi...

***** he us mazhab pe jo insano se nafrat sikhaey ***** ho us soch k manney valoon pe...........un ghatia logo pe jo insaon k katal e aam ko jaiz kehtey hain..

samar
25-Aug-2011, 03:18 PM
Agar vo fauji b aalim hota to is do takkey k ghatia mufti ko khoob sunata lakin afsoos k army vala aik aam insaan tha vrna is ghatia tareen molvi k jisko baat krney ki b tameez nhi isko khoob achi trha tight krta.

In k saath sirf jihaad hi hona chahey ye baat ko nhi samhajtey sab ko khtam kr dena chahey ta k ye fitna pakistan se khatam ho sakey.

oscar
25-Aug-2011, 04:31 PM
foji molvi had no valid point.

w-a-n-t-e-d-
25-Aug-2011, 08:04 PM
telephonic conversation ki koe value nahi ..


molvi kaun hai fauji kaun hai hummay tumhay kia pata ??


black water or amrican cia ko 10sal tak hazaroon visa deyh tu abb bhogto bhi
magar baat baat pay molvi or ulema pay zuban nekalnay ka bahana nahi dhonda karo
jo bhi baat ho seedha apni Lan.ti Fauj ki neck pakro k tum nay yeh hal kia hai pakistan ka 11sal main..

eska zemedar koe molvi nahi musharraff hai

Resonant
14-Sep-2011, 04:58 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1...nt-part-2_news (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1ppe_dialogue-between-pak-army-soldier-and-taliban-ttp-takfiri-militant-part-2_news)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1...nt-part-3_news (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1q7z_dialogue-between-pak-army-soldier-and-taliban-ttp-takfiri-militant-part-3_news)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1...nt-part-4_news (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1qsy_dialogue-between-pak-army-soldier-and-taliban-ttp-takfiri-militant-part-4_news)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1...nt-part-5_news (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1r8x_dialogue-between-pak-army-soldier-and-taliban-ttp-takfiri-militant-part-5_news)

Fursan
14-Sep-2011, 08:23 PM
http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad136/fursan/dialogue.jpg

In better audio quality,
Dialogue Between Pak Army Soldier And Taliban Takfiri Militant (http://pakfauj.tripod.com/multimedia-dialogue.html)

tariq_tariq
03-Nov-2011, 02:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uYiQxTTf8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38T8rSPqMBI

security
03-Nov-2011, 03:28 AM
Brain wash .......

karachiwala
03-Nov-2011, 03:39 AM
This is called interpreting Quraan to your own desires. I do not know what punishment ALLAH :subhanahu: has reserved for such people but for sure they are just like khawarij in their ways.

InsafianPTI
03-Nov-2011, 07:01 AM
main waisay tu donon k mukhalif hon per waisay fauji k pass aik b daleel nai thi

Fauji was not a religious scholar (therefore couldn't argue much because of lack of knowledge), but this mufti was a so called scholar so obviously he had 'Rattay Huay' answers, its not his greatness by any means......
The answers he gave how were they right????? Quaid-e-azam was kaffir???? people of pakistan are kaffir????? This country was given to people of pakistan for its people as their right to quaid-e- azam, right????? if he (who's anscestors were not even part of this struggle) were not happy then, not happy with anything now, why can't they leave????????
why can't they find another land for themselves, which is ideally good for them.
Pakistanis can find their way forward, Who is he whith his bunch of stupids to judge........:angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smil e:

Yes few things are wrong, its wrong to kill muslims for non-muslims using their aid or without aid, he is still mixing right and wrong things together. Their biggest so called leader said himself (I mean Usama bin laden) that ' killing of innocent muslims was a black mark on Alqueda'.

so they know deep down inside that they are doing wrong things as well. they have made everything fair in this war which is not what islam is......

Troll
27-Aug-2012, 12:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFjfE1wFKAA&feature=youtu.be

یہ گفتگو کسی پاکستانی فوجی آفیسر اور طالبانی کمانڈر کے مابین ہو رہی ہے، جو طالبان
کے سیاسی خیالات اور مقاصد کی عکاسی پر مبنی ہے۔


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jloBz4SDGQ&feature=youtu.be

اور وہ حضرات جو سمجھتے ہیں کہ جب امریکہ اس خطے سے نکل جائے گا، توطالبان پہاڑوں سے نیچے اتر کر ایک عام شہری کی طرح روزی روٹی کی تلاش میں نکل کھڑے ہوں گے۔ ان لوگوں کو سمجھنا ہو گا کہ بات اتنی سادی نہیں ہے، یہ طالبان شریعت کے نفاذ کے نام پر اپنا انتشار جاری رکھنے پر مضبوطی سے مصرہیں۔ یہ مسئلہ اس وقت تک قابو میں نہیں آئے گا جب تک انکے حوصلے نا پست کر دئیے جائیں اور پانچ سات ہزار شرپسندوں کے سر نہ آتارے گئے۔

wadaich
27-Aug-2012, 01:05 AM
How many times this video of a Takfeeri Mole shall be posted on this forum???????

moazzamniaz
27-Aug-2012, 01:06 AM
اپنے مسلمان بھائی(افغانی) کیلیے بھی وہ چیز منتخب کرو کہ جو اپنے(پاکستانی) لیے پسند کرتے ہو

اسی ایک فرمان پر عمل کیا ہوتا تو آج اتنے ذلیل و خوار نہ ہو رہے ہوتے

omer123
27-Aug-2012, 01:23 AM
bhai yeh video kitni barr aur post ho gi yahaan?? yeh banda ttp sy ta'looq rakhta hy itna pata honaa chahiye tha app ko!!

ASQR1
27-Aug-2012, 01:32 AM
One should ask this maulvi to explain as to who is a Muslim, according to Sunna, Muslim is the one who believes in oneness of Allah S.W.T. And believes in all the prophets and believes in his books.

So this mula should be taught about being Muslim and to assume that those he selects to be non Muslims and have them killed is an act not accepted by Islam.

And our holy book says. " if you kill one innocent person you kill the whole humanity, and if you save one innocent human you save the whole humanity, "

See it say one innocent human not one innocent Muslim, so these Talibans are agents of non Muslims and have no clue of Islam.

ranaji
27-Aug-2012, 01:54 AM
Quid e azam rehmat ullah aleh ko burra kahney waley laaanti mardood hain

MuslimPak
27-Aug-2012, 01:58 AM
May Allah keep Mufti Abu Zarr Azzam steadfast on this path and protect him. Ameen

mehwish_ali
27-Aug-2012, 02:29 AM
طالبان کے خلاف جنگ ہماری اپنی جنگ اُس دن بن گئی تھی جب کابل کو فتح کرنے کے بعد طالبان نے نعرے لگائے تھے "کابل تا اسلام آباد ۔۔۔ طالبان طالبان"۔

امریکہ کا آج صرف بہانہ ہے جس کی آڑ میں پاکستان کو خود کش حملوں سے کمزور کیا جا رہا ہے، مگر یہ بات یقینی تھی کہ کابل میں فتح کے بعد جلد یا بدیر طالبان نے اسلام آباد کو فتح کرنے کے لیے پیش قدمی کرنی تھی۔

amir_ali
27-Aug-2012, 02:55 AM
What is wrong with implementation of Sharia in Pakistan. After all Pakistan is 90% +Muslims.

ASQR1
15-Sep-2012, 08:52 AM
طالبان کے خلاف جنگ ہماری اپنی جنگ اُس دن بن گئی تھی جب کابل کو فتح کرنے کے بعد طالبان نے نعرے لگائے تھے "کابل تا اسلام آباد ۔۔۔ طالبان طالبان"۔

امریکہ کا آج صرف بہانہ ہے جس کی آڑ میں پاکستان کو خود کش حملوں سے کمزور کیا جا رہا ہے، مگر یہ بات یقینی تھی کہ کابل میں فتح کے بعد جلد یا بدیر طالبان نے اسلام آباد کو فتح کرنے کے لیے پیش قدمی کرنی تھی۔






Please donot blame others, it is upto you to not attack each other no matter waht, it upto you settle your differences, but if you settle your differences by force than you have acted against Islam.

Think about it.

mehwish_ali
15-Sep-2012, 04:11 PM
Please donot blame others, it is upto you to not attack each other no matter waht, it upto you settle your differences, but if you settle your differences by force than you have acted against Islam.

Think about it.

محترم بھائی

آپکی بات سر آنکھوں پر۔ مگر افسوس کہ آپکو حالات کا ادراک مکمل طور پر نہیں ہے۔

طالبان اگر ہم سے فقط "اختلاف رائے" کرتے تو انکا یہ اختلاف رائے سر آنکھوں پر ہوتا اور معاملات بات چیت کے ذریعے ہی حل ہوتے۔

مگر جب کوئی گروہ ہاتھ میں ہتھیار اٹھا لے، اور انسانی خون بہانے لگے، اور ہرگز ہرگز ہزار بار بات چیت کی دعوت دینے کے باوجود اپنے فتنے سے باز نہ آئے تو پھر کیا کیا جائے؟

قرآن اس معاملے میں بالکل صاف ہے۔

قران کہتا ہے کہ ایسے فتنے کو قتل کرو اور اتنا قتل کروں کہ بالکل نیست و نابود ہو جائے، یا پھر اپنے فتنے سے باز آ جائے۔

اسی قرآنی حکم پر عمل کرتے ہوئے خلیفہ چہارم علی ابن ابی طالب نے خارجی مسلمانوں کو جنگ نہروان میں قتل کیا، اور اتنا قتل کیا کہ فقط 5 یا 6 خارجیوں کے علاوہ کوئی باقی نہ بچا۔ مگر ان بھاگ کر بچ جانے والوں میں ایک خارجی ابن ملجم بھی تھا جس نے بعد میں امام علی کو مسجد میں نماز پڑھتے ہوئے شہید کر دیا۔

یہ خارجی بھی آخر مسلمان تھے اور ان میں صحابہ اور تابعین موجود تھے۔ تو پھر انہیں علی ابن ابی طالب نے کیوں قتل کیا؟

وجہ وہی قرآنی حکم ہے۔

اور یہ خارجی بھی گروہ بنا کر بیٹھ گئے اور عام مسلمانوں کو انہوں نے قتل کرنا شروع کر دیا تھا۔ اگر انکے فتنے کا سدباب نہ کیا جاتا اور یہ فتنہ مزید پھیل جاتا تو پھر اسلامی ریاست کو جنگ نہروان سے 100 گنا زیادہ نقصان اٹھانا پڑتا۔

اور یہ طالبان بھی آج کے خارجی ہیں۔

اگر آپ ان کے فتنے کو آج ختم نہیں کریں گے، تو کل یہ پھیل کر ہزاروں اور لاکھوں معصوم مسلمانوں کو ذبح کر ڈالے گا۔

کیا آپ نے نہیں دیکھا کہ جب آپ نے سوات کا پورا علاقہ ان طالبان کے حوالے کر دیا تو نتیجہ کیا ہوا؟

نتیجہ یہ ہوا کہ انہوں نے مزید سینکڑوں مسلمانوں کو ذبح کر ڈالا، اور دس لاکھ مسلمان بے گھر ہو کر دربدر ٹھوکریں کھا رہے تھے اور آخر میں پاک فوج کو مزید کئی گنا زیادہ قربانیاں دے کر سوات کے علاقے سے انکا فتنہ ختم کرنا پڑا۔

ہمیں یہ سارا نقصان اس لیے اٹھانا پڑا کیونکہ قرآن میں ہمارا یقین کامل نہیں اور ہم نے قرآنی حکم پر عمل کرتے ہوئے فتنے کا مکمل سدباب نہیں کیا۔

طالبان اگر آج ہتھیار ڈال دیں تو وہ ہمارے دینی بھائی ہیں۔

لیکن اگر وہ ہتھیار اٹھائے رہتے ہیں، تو انہیں پوری قوت سے کچل دینے کے علاوہ اور کوئی حل نہیں ہے، وگرنہ وہ خود کش حملے کر کے مزید ہزاروں معصوموں کے قتل کا باعث بن جائیں گے۔

اور طالبان جن معصوموں کا قتل کر رہے ہیں، تو معصوموں کے خون کے طالبان اکیلے ذمہ دار نہیں ہیں، بلکہ ہم لوگ بھی اس کے ساتھ میں ذمہ دار ہیں کیونکہ ہم طالبانی فتنے کی سرکوبی نہیں کرتے اور انہیں معصوموں کے خون سے کھیلنے کی کھلی چھٹی دیے ہوئے ہیں۔

abdlsy
26-Nov-2012, 09:41 AM
Pakistan army is the best listen how army man answers and what deen is TTP following?????????


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl1qsy_dialogue-between-pak-army-soldier-and-taliban-ttp-takfiri-militant-part-4_news?search_algo=2

jeelu
26-Nov-2012, 10:02 AM
wah bae yeh kounsi shariyat mein jaiz hai?
and bae hazrat Mohammad S.A.W.W nay kufaar k maal ko lena tha ALLAH ki command pay
yeh Muslmaano ki hak halal ki kamae hai baghairat logo
aur logo ko tung karna kaha ka islam hai khas tour pay Muslmano ko tung karna

jeelu
26-Nov-2012, 10:05 AM
aajkul har koi uth k kisi ko b kafir karar de deta hai usko maar deta hai fatwa laga deta hai

abdlsy
26-Nov-2012, 10:16 AM
aajkul har koi uth k kisi ko b kafir karar de deta hai usko maar deta hai fatwa laga deta hai
I agree, they must be brainwashed and taught islamic teachings in evil ways, may allh give these people some sense, ameen

Queue Farms
26-Nov-2012, 10:39 AM
Yeh american agent hongay :lol: asli taliban to masoom nanhy palay hayn

Young_Blood
26-Nov-2012, 10:49 AM
Fauji bhai ko baat karni nahi aati,, poochna chahiay tha na iss 2 number k ttp k fitnay molvi ko k Quran main kaha likha hai k JABAR se Zulm se Qatal ker k kisi shariyat nafiz ke jaey? ya Hazrat Muhammad S A W W ne kab aur kaha kiss waqt zulm ker k qatal ker k Masajid Shaheed ker k Janazay main shareek afrad ko bomb se uraa ker Shariyat nafiz ke?

Queue Farms
26-Nov-2012, 10:51 AM
Waisay is video main yeh baat saaf hojati hay k dono taliban zaliman hi hayn

Muhib e Watan
26-Nov-2012, 11:01 AM
bey'buniad or wahe'yaat daleelen ... musalmanon ko kafir qarar dena or un k maal or jan ko ghaneemat samjna phir is ko shareat qarar dena... astaghfirullah (quite)

Muhib e Watan
26-Nov-2012, 11:03 AM
Fauji bhai ko baat karni nahi aati,, poochna chahiay tha na iss 2 number k ttp k fitnay molvi ko k Quran main kaha likha hai k JABAR se Zulm se Qatal ker k kisi shariyat nafiz ke jaey? ya Hazrat Muhammad S A W W ne kab aur kaha kiss waqt zulm ker k qatal ker k Masajid Shaheed ker k Janazay main shareek afrad ko bomb se uraa ker Shariyat nafiz ke?

agar Fauji bahi ye baat poochta b to jaisi kufrana daleelen dey kar wo apney aap ko defend kar raha hia wesa hi karta, jhaliat ki iss sey behter misaal or koi nahi ho sakti

Raaz
26-Nov-2012, 11:19 AM
جو خود رزق ہلال نہی کماتا اس کو سچا مسلمان کہتے ہوے سوچنا چاہے ، کہاں وہ مجاہد کھلا ئے

صابی کوئی کافروں کی چوری نہی کرتے تھے ، نا ہی ان کو اغوا کرتے تھے ، الله تعالیٰ اسلام کو ڈاکوؤں اور قاتلوں سے بچاۓ

یہ تو ایک شریف ترین مذھب ہے

muntazir
26-Nov-2012, 12:20 PM
yeh zalimaan ka banda khud keh raha hai key hum sab aik hain chahey woh Afghan hoon yaa pak talib sab aik hain aur in koo mullah umar ka tehrer kia howa hukamnama bhi milta hai aur yehmullah umar koo Ameer mantey hain too aab joo lloog kehtey hain key Afghan taliban aur ttp main faraq hoo woh kia lkahen gai.

mkhurram
26-Nov-2012, 12:24 PM
I suggest to listen to the "complete" conversation on youtube between the two.... Only 15 minutes of the "selected" talk do not do the justice. It is in two parts and more than an hour duration ... worth listening.

abdlsy
26-Nov-2012, 12:25 PM
yeh zalimaan ka banda khud keh raha hai key hum sab aik hain chahey woh Afghan hoon yaa pak talib sab aik hain aur in koo mullah umar ka tehrer kia howa hukamnama bhi milta hai aur yehmullah umar koo Ameer mantey hain too aab joo lloog kehtey hain key Afghan taliban aur ttp main faraq hoo woh kia lkahen gai.


I agree, they both are confused, do dua for both of them, very similar in their evil actions

abdlsy
26-Nov-2012, 12:28 PM
I suggest to listen to the "complete" conversation on youtube between the two.... Only 15 minutes of the "selected" talk do not do the justice. It is in two parts and more than an hour duration ... worth listening.
justice to whom TTP or our army, use common sense its very clear the antiislamic message by ttp

cricket4life
26-Nov-2012, 05:54 PM
Tawaan ke liye Agwa karna Shariah hai:13::13: Are they really Muslims?

knower
17-Feb-2014, 03:31 AM
This conversation took place somewhere in Waziristan between a Pak army soldier and a commander of the Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan on wireless.The Taliban can be heard cursing Quaid e Azam and calling Shias kafir,as well as fabricating Ahadith.

After hearing these words frm taliban p!g about Quaid e azam, do you still want any of them in our Pak Sarzameen?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nNn1o_8UM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNQz3hD-3Io

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 03:34 AM
Yes, we want negotiations, cease fire and an end to the killings of captives from both the sides.

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 03:38 AM
you know who else had been swearing @ QA? Zardari's father. Do you want to kill zardari family 2?

We want serious and honest efforts for dialogues. if they fail then go to war

Baazz
17-Feb-2014, 03:39 AM
knower bhai saab....dus saal say operation he ho raha hay.....waisay quaid azam ko maulana fazl saab walay bhi nahi mantay jo hr hakoomat ka hissa hoaty hain..in kay baray main kya khayal hay...aur altaf bhai bhai jaan bhi quaid e azam kay baray fan hain..kuch nazr karam udhar bhi..

atensari
17-Feb-2014, 03:41 AM
کیا زرداریان بھی اسی سلوک کے مستحق ہیں؟



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Cn3qn90Mg


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x191ia7_views-of-father-of-asif-ali-zardari-hakim-ali-zardari-about-quaid-e-azam_news?search_algo=1

nas khan
17-Feb-2014, 03:41 AM
what did the Army do to free 23 FC men from TTP ? Why were they in TTP custody for last 4 years ? Mohmand Agency was cleared by Army , Why TTP Mohmand carrying out attacks ? Why Operation in NWS if TTP Mohmnad carrying out attacks ? who is stoping Army to eliminate TTP Mohmand ?Y this incident happened when today it was reported in media that TTP will announce ceasefire in day or two ? Army and agencies using TTP Mohmand to sabotage dialogue. Army dont want dialogue and wants operation.

sardar388
17-Feb-2014, 03:41 AM
5% Taliban hardliners, 25% joined militancy due to injustice, 70% are jobless youth in a war zone- Amb Holbrooke (http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?235718-5-Taliban-hardliners-25-joined-militancy-due-to-injustice-70-are-jobless-youth-in-a-war-zone-Amb-Holbrooke)

You don't want to upset one of your masters, so better give heed and agree with him.

saqi81
17-Feb-2014, 03:42 AM
you know who else had been swearing @ QA? Zardari's father. Do you want to kill zardari family 2?

We want serious and honest efforts for dialogues. if they fail then go to war

If kills 50,000 innocent people then yeh we should take action against him. whats your take now?

saqi81
17-Feb-2014, 03:42 AM
کیا زرداریان بھی اسی سلوک کے مستحق ہیں؟


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Cn3qn90Mg

He did not kill 50,000 Pakistanis

Politcs
17-Feb-2014, 03:45 AM
Yes, we want negotiations, cease fire and an end to the killings of captives from both the sides.

Captives from both sides? You mean criminals held in prisons on rape and killing charges are same as university professor is kidnapped for ransom? You must be Buzdil Khan supporter because only Buzdil Khan is stupid and dumb.

PakistaniFirst
17-Feb-2014, 03:45 AM
Dollar Khoorron k mun ko Khooon laga hua hai ...... DO MORE ....

For a Few Dollar More....

Pak Falcon
17-Feb-2014, 03:45 AM
what did the Army do to free 23 FC men from TTP ? Why were they in TTP custody for last 4 years ? Mohmand Agency was cleared by Army , Why TTP Mohmand carrying out attacks ? Why Operation in NWS if TTP Mohmnad carrying out attacks ? who is stoping Army to eliminate TTP Mohmand ?Y this incident happened when today it was reported in media that TTP will announce ceasefire in day or two ? Army and agencies using TTP Mohmand to sabotage dialogue. Army dont want dialogue and wants operation.


when army try to do something then you start to bark that they are killing innocent.

knower
17-Feb-2014, 03:47 AM
Bilkul 10 saal se operation ho rha hai, laikin jab bhi in kwarji taliban ki Qamar tootney ka aeen waqt aata hai , tab muzakraat ka drama shuru ho jata hai, jis ki wajah se ye ****** phir sey hum par haavi ho jatey hain.




knower bhai saab....dus saal say operation he ho raha hay.....waisay quaid azam ko maulana fazl saab walay bhi nahi mantay jo hr hakoomat ka hissa hoaty hain..in kay baray main kya khayal hay...aur altaf bhai bhai jaan bhi quaid e azam kay baray fan hain..kuch nazr karam udhar bhi..

pak_aus
17-Feb-2014, 03:49 AM
ye soar hn bani ommiya ki auld hn en ku jahan dekho aur en ka qala qama kroo.

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 03:50 AM
Captives from both sides? You mean criminals held in prisons on rape and killing charges are same as university professor is kidnapped for ransom? You must be Buzdil Khan supporter because only Buzdil Khan is stupid and dumb.

Yes, they all have rights. this notion might be alien to you but there is a thing called law. We have courts and judges to punish criminals. If we wanted everything to be done by the army, we wouldn't have the laws and courts. we wouldn't even hold elections. Army would take care of everything.

We kill their ppl for killing our ppl. They kill our ppl for killing theirs. Vicious circle will never end.

Give dialogues a serious chance and effort. if they fail. go full monty.

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 03:51 AM
Bilkul 10 saal se operation ho rha hai, laikin jab bhi in kwarji taliban ki Qamar tootney ka aeen waqt aata hai , tab muzakraat ka drama shuru ho jata hai, jis ki wajah se ye ****** phir sey hum par haavi ho jatey hain.

Just like when it happened with Raymondd avis? muzakrat made the army to put him on a plane?

Baazz
17-Feb-2014, 03:52 AM
Bilkul 10 saal se operation ho rha hai, laikin jab bhi in kwarji taliban ki Qamar tootney ka aeen waqt aata hai , tab muzakraat ka drama shuru ho jata hai, jis ki wajah se ye ****** phir sey hum par haavi ho jatey hain.

dost main zaida nahi jaanta..pr agar ap bata sakain kay hum kab in ki qamar tornay kay qareeb ponchay...mujy in say koi hamdardi nahi..aik fitna aur fasad he hain yeh..

knower
17-Feb-2014, 03:52 AM
aur jahan tak altaf ki baat hai, altaf ke chuhon ko bhi Rangers Karachi main chun chun kar maar rhi hai. Shayad aap ko in dinon main khabrain parhne ka waqt nhi mila


knower bhai saab....dus saal say operation he ho raha hay.....waisay quaid azam ko maulana fazl saab walay bhi nahi mantay jo hr hakoomat ka hissa hoaty hain..in kay baray main kya khayal hay...aur altaf bhai bhai jaan bhi quaid e azam kay baray fan hain..kuch nazr karam udhar bhi..

knower
17-Feb-2014, 03:55 AM
Jab hakoomat Army ko puri azaadi de degi, aur Jab muzakrat ka drama koi shuru nhi karega.


Aur , Ager Army ko 2 din diye jaye PURI KUWWAT ke sath apni man maani karne ki Karachi main to Karachi 2 dinon main purana Karachi ban sakta hai.




dost main zaida nahi jaanta..pr agar ap bata sakain kay hum kab in ki qamar tornay kay qareeb ponchay...mujy in say koi hamdardi nahi..aik fitna aur fasad he hain yeh..

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 03:55 AM
when army try to do something then you start to bark that they are killing innocent.

Specially, muzakrat reall became an obstacle for the army when they couldn't find where osama was hiding. Due to muzakrats, pak army couldn't stop the US helicopters in abbottabad.

Politcs
17-Feb-2014, 03:56 AM
Yes, they all have rights. this notion might be alien to you but there is a thing called law. We have courts and judges to punish criminals. If we wanted everything to be done by the army, we wouldn't have the laws and courts. we wouldn't even hold elections. Army would take care of everything.

We kill their ppl for killing our ppl. They kill our ppl for killing theirs. Vicious circle will never end.

Give dialogues a serious chance and effort. if they fail. go full monty.

These pigs has more rights. First thing kpk government did was jail break where all killers were allowed to go home. Before going home they beheaded few shia prisoners too.

Mass murderers has no right but death but you dumb are worry about their safety rather than pakistan people.

Who is guarding Buzdil Khan house in Bani Gala? Pakistani forces not TTP. If Taliabani pigs are so nice then Buzdil Khan should ask them to secure his house not FC

Politcs
17-Feb-2014, 03:57 AM
Specially, muzakrat reall became an obstacle for the army when they couldn't find where osama was hiding. Due to muzakrats, pak army couldn't stop the US helicopters in abbottabad.

Yes It was Pakistan army fault because they should have killed Osama not US. You are not Sher Khan but Rat Khan or probably Buzdil Khan and may be dumb khan.

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 03:57 AM
Jab hakoomat Army ko puri azaadi de degi, aur Jab muzakrat ka drama koi shuru nhi karega.


Aur , Ager Army ko 2 din diye jaye PURI KUWWAT ke sath apni man maani karne ki Karachi main to Karachi 2 dinon main purana Karachi ban sakta hai.


Yeah, let's give right to the army. just like army has fixed everything in baluchistan, it will fix in karachi 2.

Get one thing straight, any army cannot fight against its own people successfully.

knower
17-Feb-2014, 03:58 AM
Yes, they all have rights. this notion might be alien to you but there is a thing called law. We have courts and judges to punish criminals. If we wanted everything to be done by the army, we wouldn't have the laws and courts. we wouldn't even hold elections. Army would take care of everything.

We kill their ppl for killing our ppl. They kill our ppl for killing theirs. Vicious circle will never end.

Give dialogues a serious chance and effort. if they fail. go full monty.

LOL, aur kitney serious ho yaar, aakhir tum log chahtey kiya ho??? tum khud hi kyoun nhi canada se aa kar muzakrat karte in kwarjiyon se...

younus
17-Feb-2014, 03:58 AM
jis tarah zardari ka baap aur talibaan key abau ajdad Quaid ko Kafir/Yahudi kehte the... exactly usi tarah Zardari aur taliban IK ko Kafir aur yahudi kehti hain...

Arbkhan
17-Feb-2014, 03:59 AM
کیا زرداریان بھی اسی سلوک کے مستحق ہیں؟



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Cn3qn90Mg


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x191ia7_views-of-father-of-asif-ali-zardari-hakim-ali-zardari-about-quaid-e-azam_news?search_algo=1


بے غیرتی کی کوئی حد بھی ہے ؟ اگر یہ سننے کے بعد بھی تم ایک لعنتی کو دوسرے سے موازنہ کر کے صحیح ثابت کرنے کی کوشش کرو تو الله کے عذاب کا انتظار کرو پھر.


اب بھی تمھیں شک ہے ان سوروں پر، جو اپنے علاوہ سب کو کافر گردانتے ہیں ؟

knower
17-Feb-2014, 04:00 AM
Aaj jo ehsas e kamtari aur, jo bhi halat hain Balochistan ke, wo aap ki corrupt democracy ki meherbaniyon ki wajah se hai, Army ki wajah se nhi


Yeah, let's give right to the army. just like army has fixed everything in baluchistan, it will fix in karachi 2.

Get one thing straight, any army cannot fight against its own people successfully.

Pak Falcon
17-Feb-2014, 04:02 AM
Specially, muzakrat reall became an obstacle for the army when they couldn't find where osama was hiding. Due to muzakrats, pak army couldn't stop the US helicopters in abbottabad.

army mein kabhi jao na lagay pata, canada mein beth kar army par tanqeed kar dena to bohot asan hai. Aapki duniya best army kiya kar rahi thi jab jahaz unhi k mulk se fly karke buildings se takraye the?

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:02 AM
These pigs has more rights. First thing kpk government did was jail break where all killers were allowed to go home. Before going home they beheaded few shia prisoners too.

Mass murderers has no right but death but you dumb are worry about their safety rather than pakistan people.

Who is guarding Buzdil Khan house in Bani Gala? Pakistani forces not TTP. If Taliabani pigs are so nice then Buzdil Khan should ask them to secure his house not FC

it is because of morons like you that there is no respect for the law in Pakistan. Nobody follows it and then complain about target killings and suicide bombers.

After winning the WW2, the allied forces could have killed all the NAZI officers in captivity. They didn't do it. They gave the NAZIs a trial and then punished them. NAZIs killed millions of ppl in the entire world.

The trials gave the perception of justice and NAZIs were no longer able to recruit ppl for their cause effectively.

The perception of law and justice might not be important to war mongerers like yourself but it produces favorable results to civilized nations.

Arbkhan
17-Feb-2014, 04:03 AM
you know who else had been swearing @ QA? Zardari's father. Do you want to kill zardari family 2?

We want serious and honest efforts for dialogues. if they fail then go to war

Do you seriously think they are doing it for Shariat ? Think again , They are blood hounds who just know how to spill blood.

They are just buying time till the ice melts, after that , you will see the negotiations will end as they had never happened.

Baazz
17-Feb-2014, 04:03 AM
Aaj jo ehsas e kamtari aur, jo bhi halat hain Balochistan ke, wo aap ki corrupt democracy ki meherbaniyon ki wajah se hai, Army ki wajah se nhi
mut karo dost aisay..main baluchistan say hon...ab tak fauj teen operation kr chuki aur chotha 8 saal say chal raha hay..

Baazz
17-Feb-2014, 04:06 AM
Do you seriously think they are doing it for Shariat ? Think again , They are blood hounds who just know how to spill blood.

They are just buying time till the ice melts, after that , you will see the negotiations will end as they had never happened.

I agree..these ppl have got nothing to do with islam...dialogue ki success pr bhi buhat bara ? hay...sawal yeh ka inhain "jinn" bananay walon ka kia hua.. aur ab kaisay nimta jae..

knower
17-Feb-2014, 04:06 AM
Do you seriously think they are doing it for Shariat ? Think again , They are blood hounds who just know how to spill blood.

They are just buying time till the ice melts, after that , you will see the negotiations will end as they had never happened.

thats theyr old dirty tactic to survive... bloody rats

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:06 AM
Yes It was Pakistan army fault because they should have killed Osama not US. You are not Sher Khan but Rat Khan or probably Buzdil Khan and may be dumb khan.


LOL this is exactly what my point was. We should have captured Osama not the US. But it seems that u r too slow to understand comments.

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:09 AM
Do you seriously think they are doing it for Shariat ? Think again , They are blood hounds who just know how to spill blood.

They are just buying time till the ice melts, after that , you will see the negotiations will end as they had never happened.


If the negotiations fail, I don't have a problem with war. But I don't want to have any predispositions before the failure. We killed their ppl in our captivity during the dialogues, they killed ours. some ppl from both sides want dialogues to fail.

knower
17-Feb-2014, 04:09 AM
mere bhai , Balochistan main ager logon ne Pakistan ke jhandey jalayen hain to wo isliye hai ke un ke sath jaise sauteli maan saluk karti hai waise har hakoomat ne kiya hai...

aaj jo Punjab, sindh aur KPK main facilities hain wo Balochistan main nhi hain, problems ki jarr ye hai. aur logon ke hathon main Pakistan ke Khilaf Bandook bhi issi wajah se hai


mut karo dost aisay..main baluchistan say hon...ab tak fauj teen operation kr chuki aur chotha 8 saal say chal raha hay..

knower
17-Feb-2014, 04:11 AM
Pak army didnt even touch them during dialogues. the truth is that they don't even want dialogues and never wanted to live in peace with Pakistan. they want a seperate state


If the negotiations fail, I don't have a problem with war. But I don't want to have any predispositions before the failure. We killed their ppl in our captivity during the dialogues, they killed ours. some ppl from both sides want dialogues to fail.

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:11 AM
LOL, aur kitney serious ho yaar, aakhir tum log chahtey kiya ho??? tum khud hi kyoun nhi canada se aa kar muzakrat karte in kwarjiyon se...

Overseas pakistanis ki remittances say hi pakistan chal raha hae :)
we should also have input in pak politics.

One more newsflash for u. Pak army will never be able to control and rule over pakistanis. those days are over.

atensari
17-Feb-2014, 04:12 AM
بے غیرتی کی کوئی حد بھی ہے ؟ اگر یہ سننے کے بعد بھی تم ایک لعنتی کو دوسرے سے موازنہ کر کے صحیح ثابت کرنے کی کوشش کرو تو الله کے عذاب کا انتظار کرو پھر.

اب بھی تمھیں شک ہے ان سوروں پر، جو اپنے علاوہ سب کو کافر گردانتے ہیں ؟



تمہیں تصویر کا دوسرا رخ دیکھا جائے تو اس کے سوا کوئی جواب نہیں ہوتا کے طالبان کا دفاع کیا جا رہا ہے. الله کا عذاب آیا ہوا ہے، سیکولر لبرل جو مرضی کرتے پھریں طالبان کریں تو آسمان سر پر اٹھا لیا جاتا ہے. بے غیرتوں کو کم از کم بے غیرتی میں انصاف کرنا چاہے

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:14 AM
Aaj jo ehsas e kamtari aur, jo bhi halat hain Balochistan ke, wo aap ki corrupt democracy ki meherbaniyon ki wajah se hai, Army ki wajah se nhi


Hamri democracy hamari problem hae. Army nae 1971 aur kargil war mae kia tir maar diya. Yahya Khan kya tha?

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:18 AM
army mein kabhi jao na lagay pata, canada mein beth kar army par tanqeed kar dena to bohot asan hai. Aapki duniya best army kiya kar rahi thi jab jahaz unhi k mulk se fly karke buildings se takraye the?

jo cheesay pak army exercise kay liya karti hae woh canda may entertainment kay liye ki jaati hain. Sky and scuba divings. PAkistani army ko utna hi charho jitna oos ka track record hae. Pak airforce kay pilots candaa mae chef ki job

I want pak army's respect to be restored. that's why i don't want it to kill its own people. We should not get to the level of talibans. We should follow the law.

Pak Falcon
17-Feb-2014, 04:20 AM
jo cheesay pak army exercise kay liya karti hae woh canda may entertainment kay liye ki jaati hain. Sky and scuba divings. PAkistani army ko utna hi charho jitna oos ka track record hae. Pak airforce kay pilots candaa mae chef ki job

I want pak army's respect to be restored. that's why i don't want it to kill its own people. We should not get to the level of talibans. We should follow the law.

tumhari apni koi respect nhi hai army ki respect ko choro. Tumne mere question ka ans nhi diya

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:20 AM
Pak army didnt even touch them during dialogues. the truth is that they don't even want dialogues and never wanted to live in peace with Pakistan. they want a seperate state


How do u know? there is no media access in FATA? From where are you getting the info re "didnt even touch?"

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:22 AM
tumhari apni koi respect nhi hai army ki respect ko choro. Tumne mere question ka ans nhi diya

Sorry i missed your question, which 1? Restate, I'll answer.

Pak Falcon
17-Feb-2014, 04:26 AM
Sorry i missed your question, which 1? Restate, I'll answer.

duniya ki best army kiya kar rahi thi jab jahaz unhi k mulk se fly karke buildings se takraye the?

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:31 AM
duniya ki best army kiya kar rahi thi jab jahaz unhi k mulk se fly karke buildings se takraye the?

They were not at war at that time? No one can dare fly in there right now. What excuse PAk army has, which has been in a state of war for almost a decade now? why couldn't hey capture osama? Why couldn't they stop the helicopters? Why weren't they alert? Who resigned after the Osama debacle? Democracy and politicians are corrupt, right? Who in the park army resigned after the osama incident? Who in the army has left the high paying job and perks after over 30K pakistanis are dead?

I have to go now. give your answers and I'll respond later.

Pak Falcon
17-Feb-2014, 04:37 AM
They were not at war at that time? No one can dare fly in there right now. What excuse PAk army has, which has been in a state of war for almost a decade now? why couldn't hey capture osama? Why couldn't they stop the helicopters? Why weren't they alert? Who resigned after the Osama debacle? Democracy and politicians are corrupt, right? Who in the park army resigned after the osama incident? Who in the army has left the high paying job and perks after over 30K pakistanis are dead?

I have to go now. give your answers and I'll respond later.

Who resigned after 9/11 in usa? You are just asking me stupid question based on your jahilpan, you even dont know defence radars are only used in war was pakistan in war with usa at the time? Secondly they came in stealth helicopter do u even now what is stealth technology?

and for your information pakistan also cant destroy americas 8 engine b52 bomber, so even if usa announces they are going to drop bombs in pakistan, pakistan cant do anything because we dont have any missile or aircraft which can match B52s speed & altitude

sher_khan
17-Feb-2014, 04:45 AM
Who resigned after 9/11 in usa? You are just asking me stupid question based on your jahilpan, you even dont know defence radars are only used in war was pakistan in war with usa at the time? Secondly they came in stealth helicopter do u even now what is stealth technology?

Do you have a problem with reading and comprehension? I said that Pakistan was already into a war and should have been more prepared.

I know what stealth technology because it originated from continent. You on the other hand have no idea about what's happening in the rest of the world and Pakistan.

We have something to compare with. People were fired in india after mumbai attacks. In Pakistan the army doesn't let the civilians come close to their security planning. they don't want the ISI to come under the interior ministry. Indian Interior minister who controls the RAW was fired after the mumbai attacks. Who controlled ISI when the MAy 2nd happened?

Stop the BS about stealth. Every1 in abottabad knew that there was a fire at the compound, people were out. Where was the army? it was riding on the bicycles, was running late?

Pak Falcon
17-Feb-2014, 04:50 AM
Do you have a problem with reading and comprehension? I said that Pakistan was already into a war and should have been more prepared.

I know what stealth technology because it originated from continent. You on the other hand have no idea about what's happening in the rest of the world and Pakistan.

We have something to compare with. People were fired in india after mumbai attacks. In Pakistan the army doesn't let the civilians come close to their security planning. they don't want the ISI to come under the interior ministry. Indian Interior minister who controls the RAW was fired after the mumbai attacks. Who controlled ISI when the MAy 2nd happened?

Stop the BS about stealth. Every1 in abottabad knew that there was a fire at the compound, people were out. Where was the army? it was riding on the bicycles, was running late?

o bhai we are in urban war not in a war with another state and ttp dont use fighter jets or bombers you dont make any sense

Acme Pakistan
17-Feb-2014, 05:49 AM
What the puck .... This mufti TTP is crazy and so delusional ... watch how calmly he wants to kill us all .... just imagine how he brain washes the juveniles ...."you can't polish a turd" honestly

khan27
17-Feb-2014, 05:51 AM
MashahAllah bara he baybak molvi hai (y)


yeh puri audio kahan milaygi bhai

is jese inteha pasand abhe bhi yahan ghum rahe hein kya ban unhi ko kiya jata hai jo galiya de?? what abt ppl like him?

karachiwala
17-Feb-2014, 06:13 AM
Is tape se Pakistan mein molvi hazrat ki jahalat ka pata chal sakta hai


Is post se tumhari zehn ki psti ka bhi khoobb ahsas hjo raha hae.

samy99
17-Feb-2014, 08:09 AM
After listening the conversation ,I have come to the conclusion that pakistan army have to take action against these TTP and banned organisations and finish them once for all . No sympathy or pity for them or their families because they dont have for any one else and their families. These kinds of Takfeeri deserves to be nuked to finish the whole filth from the society.I hope IK will listen this tape and learn some thing, will stop taking their sides , they are animals and criminals .Pak army dont have to leave in wazirastan otherwise these criminals will have their strong hold again, just meet the real residents of that area and do the development projects so they get jobs and other utilities so they live a comfortable lives .Since the talks started , I thought it will prove better in the national interest but after listening this TTP Bast***, I lost all hopes and there will be no positive results i see at the end so pak army should be ready to eliminate them .They are rented criminals to kill people from foreign agencies .when the operation starts , kill each and everyone of them .

w-a-n-t-e-d-
17-Feb-2014, 01:13 PM
is jese inteha pasand abhe bhi yahan ghum rahe hein kya ban unhi ko kiya jata hai jo galiya de?? what abt ppl like him?


mai sumjha nahi apki baat ??

knower
17-Feb-2014, 02:02 PM
suni sunayi baaton main kyun jaatey ho. har baat ki gehrai main jaana chahiye aur us ki wajah bhi jaanni chahiye. 65 Main Pakistan Army ne kiya kia wo kyun nhi yaad karte?



Hamri democracy hamari problem hae. Army nae 1971 aur kargil war mae kia tir maar diya. Yahya Khan kya tha?