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itsnotme90
05-Aug-2009, 01:46 PM
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—Terrorists claiming to represent Pakistani Balochis are planning to declare 'independence' on 11 August 2009, according to BRASSTACKS. It will not change much on the ground but these terrorists and their supporters in Kabul, New Delhi and within CIA will score a major point against Islamabad. The pro-US government in Islamabad and even the Pakistani opposition are courting Washington and are silent against this emerging threat to the Pakistani state. No Pakistani politician is ready to call Akbar Bugti or Kabul-based Brahamdagh or London-based Harbyar Mari by their real designation as terrorists. Both President Zardari and Mr. Nawaz Sharif are silent accomplices in what they believe is a good opportunity to weaken the grip of the Pakistani military. Plans are also underway to create a 'Pakistani Kurdistan'. Interior Minister Rehman Malik is yet to accuse Britain of giving safe haven to terrorists.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—A college chemistry professor is murdered in cold blood at his house’s doorstep in Quetta, the latest in a long list of educationists cowardly assassinated by terrorists claiming to stand for the great Pakistani Baloch. These terrorists, backed by Brahamdagh Bugti and his paid mercenaries sponsored by India and the Karzai regime with US military turning a blind eye, have kidnapped 22 police officers. A terrorist group that calls itself Balochistan Republican Army (BRA) has slaughtered four of them and dumped their bodies in public places.
Despite all these acts of terrorism by the grandson of politician-turned-terrorist Akbar Bugti, no one in the pro-US federal and provincial governments is willing to condemn the terrorists. Last month these terrorists planted a bomb on a train leaving Karachi and detonated it just half an hour away from Quetta, killing an innocent Pakistani Baloch. No condemnation then too.
The sheepish and apologetic attitude of the Pakistani government is inexplicable. Last month this government gave the Indians and the Americans damning proof on how Indian spy outfits were using the Afghan provinces of Helmand and Kandahar to target Balochistan. As much as eight foreign spy agencies are cramming this Pakistani territory. Yet the Pakistani state is reluctant to call a spade a spade. The pro-US government's chief minister in Balochistan Nawab Asalm Raisani is on record having said to reporters a few months ago, "I don't know if there is foreign involvement in the province. Go ask those who say there is." Obviously, in his many meetings with President Zardari, Prime Minister Gilani and Interior Minister Rehman Malik, no one cared to share with him the photographs of Brahamdagh Bugti cavorting with the Indians and Karzai's men not just in Kabul but in New Delhi. A better explanation is that the feudal-politicians of Balochistan, like their kin in the rest of the Pakistani politics, are ready to accept a separated Balochistan in the hope that this somehow will help weaken the grip of the Pakistani military and forever stain it in the eyes of its own people.
Here is what is happening on this front:
1. Reports are emerging that Harbyar Mari, a terrorist given sanctuary and protection by the British government, is preparing to declare the 'independence' of Balochistan. The date for this declaration has been set as 11 August, according to an alert issued by BRASSTACKS, a Pakistani security and defense analysis think tank run by imminent expert Zaid Hamid.
2. This comes with reports that the Zardari government is preparing to grant 'full autonomy' to Balochistan within the Pakistani federation. In essence, this means Pakistan will soon have its own version of Iraq's Kurdistan. Considering the volatile security situation in the region and the active interest of both the Americans and Indians in wresting Balochistan from Pakistani hands, this would prove to be a kiss of death for Pakistan's national integrity. The US media is quiet these days on the so-called Greater Pashtunistan, but in the last two years, the US media leaked story after story on the feasibility of this option. These leaked reports reflected an organized campaign by people within Pentagon and CIA. This campaign ceased only after protests by Pakistani officials. Another reason why this campaign stopped is to give some space to unknown 'terrorists' who have infiltrated from Afghanistan to Pakistan under the guise of the so-called Pakistani Taliban. The Kabul regime and its Indian and American allies were hoping that the death and mayhem created among Pakistani Pashtuns would be enough to rally the Pashtun of both Pakistan and Afghanistan to demand an independent country. Luckily, the Pakistani Pashtun, who are an important and active part of the Pakistani society and the power structure, understood the game and refused to play along despite enticements coming from inside the Afghan territory.
3. According to BRASSTACKS, the US government has requested the Zardari government to give part of the Balochistan coastal are to the US Navy to construct a port that would serve the US occupation forces in Afghanistan. Surprisingly, the Zardari government is actually considering the option. Mr. Zardari is also eager to get back at China, which refused to financially bail out his corrupt pro-American government. China financed part of the Gwadar project.
4. Meanwhile the potential of the Gwadar port has almost been destroyed and it is a matter of time before Pakistan's inept politicians turn it into another irretrievable mess. First Akbar Bugti and his foreign-supported terrorists attacked the project. Now the political parties in power are playing their usual games over the project in the hope of milking maximum kickbacks. So far the Zardari government is yet to commit funds for the remaining parts of the Gwadar port expansion. This happens while the Indians have completed and operationalized the competing Iranian port of Chah Bahar. The US surprisingly permitted Iranian and Indian companies to build roads in eastern Afghanistan connecting the Indian port despite the American aversion to anything that benefits Iran.
5. Balochistan is an American target. Pakistani politicians and some people within the Pakistani security establishment should make no mistake about it. CIA is supporting Sunni Balochis in Iran while backing an ethnic insurgency in Pakistan. It is not a coincidence that Jundullah in Iran and BLA in Pakistan emerged after the arrival of US military and CIA in Afghanistan, in the past five years to be more specific. Before 2004, there was no BLA or Jundullah anywhere
6. Washington continues to refuse to declare the so-called Balochistan Liberation Army a terrorist group despite the fact that this group has claimed responsibility for killing countless college professors and other civilians in random acts of terror in Pakistan over the past five years. Some Pakistani analysts cite strong circumstantial evidence that the CIA is running operations in the area that may not be in the full knowledge of the new US administration and may in fact contradict the stated US policy of not supporting terrorism and covert operations against allies.
The 'Bugti Hero Brigade' of Zardari-Gilani-Nawaz-Altaf
Instead of putting a politician-turned-terrorist on a pedestal, it is time to ask the question: Was Mr. Akbar Bugti acting on foreign guarantees when he launched without notice a blitzkrieg of rocket fire on vital installations one fine morning in January 2005?
There is enough evidence now that confirms the thesis that Mr. Bugti was dealing directly with the Indians and Karzai’s people. His grandson Brahamdagh moves around in Kabul under the protection of Karzai's security. There is also evidence that some tribal chieftains in Balochistan were promised they would live like Gulf Arab sheikhs in a new entity carved out of southwest Pakistan if they supported the Bugti terrorist movement.
Why does the provincial government of Nawab Aslam Raisani avoid condemning these terrorists? More stunning is the reply of Interior Minister Rehman Malik in the Senate when questioned about how a Pakistani television station was allowed to air an interview with a London-based member of the Brahamdagh terror group. Mr. Malik said the interview was taped in London and “you know there is freedom of speech there.”
What a joke. Britain is providing a sanctuary to people who finance and support terrorism inside Pakistan and all our powerful security czar can say about this is to cite Britain’s speech laws. Is there a conflict of interest here between Mr. Malik’s personal life and interests in the UK and his official duty to level with the Brits on their duplicitous policy?
The terrorist acts and the new evidence is a great opportunity to delegitimize the terrorists who claim to own Balochistan. But our usually bland and uncreative political elite is incapable of encashing this opportunity.
Major grievances aside, there is no direct discrimination against Pakistani Baloch on ethno-language grounds from anyone in the rest of the country. The level of education of Pakistani Baloch denies them opportunities to climb the social ladder. And the blame for this rests squarely with both the federal government and Balochistan’s tribal chieftains. The landlord-feudal politicians of Pakistan are responsible for compounding the problems of Pakistanis everywhere. And there is no hope in sight that those running the federal government – PPP now or PML in the future – can change anything on the ground.
The Solution
Pakistan needs a practical, nationalistic and visionary federal administration that can take monumental steps to reorganize the State and provinces.
These are the major long-term steps that Islamabad needs to take to arrest the push toward Balkanization:
1. Instead of autonomy, the four ethnic-based provinces of Pakistan need to be turned into smaller administrative provinces with their own small parliaments and directly elected governors. This will break national politics into smaller pieces and refocus the people's attention on local politics and development issues instead of the destructive national politics we see today.
2. Ban ethnic-, language- and sectarian-based political parties.
3. Introduce capital punishment for corruption and treason.
4. Ban the conduct of 'private foreign policy' by politicians and political parties with foreign governments.
5. Seize the vast land holdings of the landlord-political elite and empower the more creative and capable lower and middle class Pakistanis to step forward.
6. Forcibly democratize the family-owned political parties of Pakistan.
The big question is: Who will do this? Interestingly, a group of eminent Pakistanis with no political affiliations has come together to answer this question. Members of the group have assigned themselves to developing an out-of-the-box answer to one question: How to enact these difficult reforms outside the realm of the chaotic Pakistani democratic process? This group is expected to soon make its findings public.
Pakistan needs creative minds at the top to unlock the initiative of its people. We need change. But let’s begin with condemning the terrorists who have taken ownership of Balochistan without any contest from the pro-US government in Islamabad.
digitalzygot
05-Aug-2009, 02:17 PM
Good post, eliminate all anti Pakistan elements and charge all Pakistanis backed by CIA, RAW, MOSAD & MI6 for treason.
rana14801
05-Aug-2009, 03:35 PM
Baluch r not the only residents or owners of Baluchistan province.50% r Pashtoons and about 12%r the other settlers(if i m not wrong).rest is Baluch population scattered over a vast land and having many tribes who have also serious diffrences among them.like Bugties and Marees.operations have been carried out in Baluchistan many times.The biggest operation was carried out Against Maree's when Mr.Bhutto was in chair and Mr.Akbar Bugtee was Governor of Baluchistan in 1974,and army was on internal security duties till 1977.Now the problem is not the people of Baluchistan but few leaders and a bunch of people who have been poisoned against Pakistan and its other population. our leader ship is not taking all those measures which should be taken in an aggressive policy.that's why other countries r taking their chances and destablizing Pakistan. As regards killing of Akbar Bugtee, political leaders r trying to score points or Musharaf ke khilaf apnee bharas nikalna chahtey han.in Ayub khan's time an operation was carried out in Baluchistan.All leaders cannot be wrong there is something wich requires correction and people of Baluchistan should understand it and must resist the so called movement of freedom. it will not be freedom for them but it will be a worst slavery for them.
contra
05-Aug-2009, 04:35 PM
1. Zaid "Hitler" Hamid and Ahmed "Crazy" Quraishi at it again....
2. Maybe Zaid "Hitler" Hamid received this information throught email :lol: (Baloch to declare independence on 11th August)
3. India is a major tourist destination, so, as is alleged (no proof given yet) siting of Brahamdagh Bugti can be explained simply with the fact that maybe he was here as a tourist, you know to visit Taj Mahal, Red fort etc. ;)
butshikan
05-Aug-2009, 05:14 PM
1. Zaid "Hitler" Hamid and Ahmed "Crazy" Quraishi at it again....
Why are you Indians so scred of them if they are what you are saying ;) , why bothering about what they say ;)
or trying to do something with your actual guilt of knowing the reality
butshikan
05-Aug-2009, 05:33 PM
3. India is a major tourist destination, so, as is alleged (no proof given yet) siting of Brahamdagh Bugti can be explained simply with the fact that maybe he was here as a tourist, you know to visit Taj Mahal, Red fort etc. ;)
yeah like the Sikh remains of Operation Blue star find many tourist destinations in Canada, USA and Germany ;)
butshikan
05-Aug-2009, 05:41 PM
2. Maybe Zaid "Hitler" Hamid received this information throught email :lol: (Baloch to declare independence on 11th August)
Whatever the source was but one thing is sure it is far more reliable than the sources of Indian intelligence before Mombay incident (In which after 3 days they have no clues whta so ever, but they were involving Pakistan from the firing of first bullet) :lol: :lol: :lol:
taul
05-Aug-2009, 07:35 PM
1. Zaid "Hitler" Hamid and Ahmed "Crazy" Quraishi at it again....
2. Maybe Zaid "Hitler" Hamid received this information throught email :lol: (Baloch to declare independence on 11th August)
3. India is a major tourist destination, so, as is alleged (no proof given yet) siting of Brahamdagh Bugti can be explained simply with the fact that maybe he was here as a tourist, you know to visit Taj Mahal, Red fort etc. ;)
-Better have a look at Bharat Verma "Schizophrenic" and all War Mongering Anchors "Looney's" In India to Enlighten yourself 8-) 8-) 8-)
-You People "Indians" Like you are suffering from "Psychoses" and "Insurmountable Hatred" ever since 1947 and you Better Believe it,,,Your all Hypocritical Agenda here is Quite the Proof :lol: :lol: :lol: 8-) ....All is too Obvious :oops: :oops: :oops:
-Start Living in Real and Existing World,,and start taking some 'Pills" for Indigestion,,but then I Wonder it would Amount to Innumerable Pills since Indigestion Goes way back to 1947 :D :D :D :D :D :D ,,Try The Strongest Potencies one :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
-Oh Forgot,,We Must Give all the Traitors and All Agents, Especially Indian Backed (RAW) such a PAINFUL and RUTHLESS Death that The Rest would Tremble by even the Very Thought of Espionage.. :x :x 8-) 8-) 8-)
sarbakaf
05-Aug-2009, 08:14 PM
you know what
lets not attack india lets send our assets to destroy indian embassies and camps in afghanistan....
atlease we will curb the breeding places of these pro indian anti pakistani terrorists.
but do we expect [nawaz] [zardari] [rehman-malik] [altaf] to do all that
all these traitors ...haramzaday are busy in making their own bank balances and keeping their belly full....why would they care about pakistan or baluchistan....
well after lookin at the lot i find my self most dependent to do that job....so please vote for me if you want pakistan to prosper....if you want indian to get out from afghanistan and if you want more Diesel in the country..........
from
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[fazl]
abbasiali
05-Aug-2009, 10:43 PM
Good post, eliminate all anti Pakistan elements and charge all Pakistanis backed by CIA, RAW, MOSAD & MI6 for treason.
Very correct and true
US State Department
05-Aug-2009, 11:09 PM
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taul
05-Aug-2009, 11:16 PM
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-Oh you Fawad Retard,,do you know palying Smart,Giving Ambiguous Statements,,Under the table deals,Covert Ops..Do these Words Ring A bell???
Indianguy
05-Aug-2009, 11:38 PM
Its an old news, on dailytawar.com
http://www.balochwarna.com/modules/news ... oryid=2073 (http://www.balochwarna.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2073)
US State Department
05-Aug-2009, 11:46 PM
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taul
05-Aug-2009, 11:57 PM
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US State Department
06-Aug-2009, 12:12 AM
It is not a coincidence that Jundullah in Iran and BLA in Pakistan emerged after the arrival of US military and CIA in Afghanistan, in the past five years to be more specific. Before 2004, there was no BLA or Jundullah anywhere
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taul
06-Aug-2009, 12:24 AM
It is not a coincidence that Jundullah in Iran and BLA in Pakistan emerged after the arrival of US military and CIA in Afghanistan, in the past five years to be more specific. Before 2004, there was no BLA or Jundullah anywhere
Fawad – Digital Outreach Team – US State Department
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-Yes,What you are saying is all "BIG ASSUMPTIONS"
US State Department
06-Aug-2009, 12:37 AM
-Yes,What you are saying is all "BIG ASSUMPTIONS"
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taul
06-Aug-2009, 12:49 AM
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-Need to do better to face and Accept the Truth...
taul
06-Aug-2009, 12:51 AM
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http://www.state.gov[/size]
-Need to do Better to face and ACCEPT the Truth!!!
digitalzygot
06-Aug-2009, 01:31 AM
Agaian here's FAWAD again, posting loads of rubbish, NATO, INDIAN weapons found with terrorists involved in FATA & BALOCHISTAN according to Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah mehmood qureshi, how do you explain that FAWAD, CONTRA, INDIAN MUSLIM
digitalzygot
06-Aug-2009, 01:32 AM
Good post, eliminate all anti Pakistan elements and charge all Pakistanis backed by CIA, RAW, MOSAD & MI6 for treason.
Indianguy
06-Aug-2009, 02:00 AM
Agaian here's FAWAD again, posting loads of rubbish, NATO, INDIAN weapons found with terrorists involved in FATA & BALOCHISTAN according to Pakistan's Foreign Minister Shah mehmood qureshi, how do you explain that FAWAD, CONTRA, INDIAN MUSLIM
this is rubbish, movement in Baluchistan is indigenous and is going on from 1948, Baluchistan declared independence on August 12th 1947, But Pakistan annexed it by army brutality in march 1948. Unfortunately India is not helping Baluchistan in their endure. Although I wish that India should do that, Baloch people are our blood and India should do everything to save our people's blood otherwise whats the point of having such a big army.
taul
06-Aug-2009, 02:07 AM
[quote this is rubbish, movement in Baluchistan is indigenous and is going on from 1948, Baluchistan declared independence on August 12th 1947, But Pakistan annexed it by army brutality in march 1948. Unfortunately India is not helping Baluchistan in their endure. Although I wish that India should do that, Baloch people are our blood and India should do everything to save our people's blood otherwise whats the point of having such a big army /quote]
-On the Contrary India has been Taking full Advantage of it's Soldiers by "TERRORIZING AND OPPRESSING" Kashmiris in Kashmir and Not letting People to Live in Peace,Giving DeaF Ears to all "HUMAN ORGAINZAITONS" and Continuing it's REIGN OF TERROR In Kashmir..
-Baloch people your Blood :shock: :shock: You still Hallucinate Stuff,Get real :geek: :geek: ...August 12th 1947 :shock: :shock: :o :o Guess you and your other friend Surely have Visual hallucinations as Well As Dellusions.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D
-Infact PAKISTAN ARMY has done a SPLENDID Job in Eliminating the FILTH India has been Tryi'n to Create. :evil: :evil: :evil: BUT THEN AGAIN WHAT TO EXPECT FROM AN INCAPACITATED AND CONFUSED GUY LIKE YOU WHO SAYS "INDIA IS YOUR RELIGION" :shock: :? :? :oops: :oops: :oops:
digitalzygot
06-Aug-2009, 02:33 AM
HAHAHAH what an Idiot, seems like he's on booze or a retard
Indianguy
06-Aug-2009, 02:41 AM
HAHAHAH what an Idiot, seems like he's on booze or a retard
Time has proven in 1971 who is an idiot and retard and it will soon prove again in the due course of time.
nabeel117
06-Aug-2009, 02:45 AM
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taul
06-Aug-2009, 02:45 AM
HAHAHAH what an Idiot, seems like he's on booze or a retard
Time has proven in 1971 who is an idiot and retard and it will soon prove again in the due course of time.
-Have you been able to find out any of your buddies with "INDIA IS YOUR RELIGION" yet,,Coz You need to First Sort this out and then we'll Talk of Serious and Wordly Issues.. :oops: :oops: :roll: :roll: :? :? :? You Surely Gotta be one of a Kind :lol: :lol: :lol:
Indianguy
06-Aug-2009, 03:09 AM
HAHAHAH what an Idiot, seems like he's on booze or a retard
Time has proven in 1971 who is an idiot and retard and it will soon prove again in the due course of time.
-Have you been able to find out any of your buddies with "INDIA IS YOUR RELIGION" yet,,Coz You need to First Sort this out and then we'll Talk of Serious and Wordly Issues.. :oops: :oops: :roll: :roll: :? :? :? You Surely Gotta be one of a Kind :lol: :lol: :lol:
we are more then a billion, we are in the every corner of the world, India is not a piece of land but an epic, a story, a movement a river following to be known and amusing everybody on this earth from more then 10000 years. We may be Muslim, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs or Boddhs in our homes but we are proud Indian breath by breath. India is our first religion for every Indian, we live and die for its glory, for its people and for its values, rest is our personal believes.
I am sorry guys I get emotional when I talk about India, what to do, you know love is emotional. anyways this thread is not about India or Indians its about Baluchistan, please everybody support their struggle and pray for their goal.
digitalzygot
06-Aug-2009, 03:26 AM
'we are more then a billion, we are in the every corner of the world, India is not a piece of land but an epic, a story, a movement a river following to be known and amusing everybody on this earth from more then 10000 years. We may be Muslim, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs or Boddhs in our homes but we are proud Indian breath by breath. India is our first religion for every Indian, we live and die for its glory, for its people and for its values, rest is our personal believes.
I am sorry guys I get emotional when I talk about India, what to do, you know love is emotional. anyways this thread is not about India or Indians its about Baluchistan, please everybody support their struggle and pray for their goal'
We kicked your arse in 1965, epic *** kicking show now in history books than in Kargil and Boy we can't wait to kick your arse again in case of any aggression, you won't even have the land where cows, idols are worshipped, obsenity and sex is taught as a part of religion, I am not being disrestpectful but it's a fact, it constitutes more than 50% of worlds poor. Balochistan is not even an issue few hundred coward terrorist sponsored by Indians...are creating problems they can be eliminated in few days but few people are gaining political advantage, so again BALOCHISTAN is not even an issue what are you going on about and keep your love to yourself you sound gay when you mention 'you know love is emotional' and btw what glory are you talking about 'we live and die for its glory' it has always muslims who fought in India, rest didn't had the balls, have you forgot the history. You DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRESS, COOK, SOCIAL VALUES it was arabs who came and brought some civilisation so tell someone who doesn't know Indian history, keep your love intact or you will lose most of India and yes I am referring to Punjab, kashmir and many more.....
taul
06-Aug-2009, 03:28 AM
@ indian
--I Suggest get yourself Checked out by a good Shrink ,coz you Seem to be mixing Fantasies with Real World and Projecting it as if it were real.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ..You have Imaginary Friends That Runs In Billions :shock: :shock: :shock: ...
Let me Tell What's Going on here with you,You With an Ursurpassable Desire to Get Yourself ASSIMILATED and RECOGNIZED in the Indian HINDU Majority Nation,Has Found this an Easy Way Out that by May be Going to Such Extreme Lengths as to Being Almost Brainwashed With Such Dellusional and Non-Existent Theories would make you better Indian or more Patriotic :idea: :idea: Thats Surely and Truly Isn't the case and will never ever be as you have been Reluctantly trying to Achieve what Hindus have Achieved in Different Departments and Have this Sensation and hunch of Being Left Out.. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) There's Not Much of a Difference between you and a guy who sells himself for some Dough :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: Thank God you didn't Say Americans were your Blood :shock: :shock: :roll: If Mentioned Gypsies i would've Agreed :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Who Knows Tomorrow You Might End Up Calling your WIFE AS YOUR RELIGION THEN KIDS AND SO ON Since you have lOVE for them ALL :shock: :shock: :shock: GET SOME HELP :P :P :P :P :P
Like i said i've got a lot of True and REAL Indian Muslim Friends who I'm Proud of,,why coz they know Exactly who they are!!!Haven't lost their Identity ,Have Been Focused in thier lives.....Poor you... :cry: :cry: :cry:
We All are with Baloch and our Khan Brothers People in Eradicating the "Indian Agents Backed Agenda" and Insha-Allah WE Will Succeed
Lastly and Most Significantly Free kashmir and Let People PLEBISCITE..Stop TERRORIZING THEM AND KILLING INNOCENT KASHMIRIS.. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
digitalzygot
06-Aug-2009, 03:31 AM
Good one I have tons of indian muslim friends and they tell me of how they are treated there I don't know what this guy is talking about.. he needs a shrink
Indianguy
06-Aug-2009, 03:35 AM
'we are more then a billion, we are in the every corner of the world, India is not a piece of land but an epic, a story, a movement a river following to be known and amusing everybody on this earth from more then 10000 years. We may be Muslim, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs or Boddhs in our homes but we are proud Indian breath by breath. India is our first religion for every Indian, we live and die for its glory, for its people and for its values, rest is our personal believes.
I am sorry guys I get emotional when I talk about India, what to do, you know love is emotional. anyways this thread is not about India or Indians its about Baluchistan, please everybody support their struggle and pray for their goal'
We kicked your arse in 1965, epic *** kicking show now in history books than in Kargil and Boy we can't wait to kick your arse again in case of any aggression, you won't even have the land where cows, idols are worshipped, obsenity and sex is taught as a part of religion, I am not being disrestpectful but it's a fact, it constitutes more than 50% of worlds poor. Balochistan is not even an issue few hundred coward terrorist sponsored by Indians...are creating problems they can be eliminated in few days but few people are gaining political advantage, so again BALOCHISTAN is not even an issue what are you going on about and keep your love to yourself you sound gay when you mention 'you know love is emotional' and btw what glory are you talking about 'we live and die for its glory' it has always muslims who fought in India, rest didn't had the balls, have you forgot the history. You DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRESS, COOK, SOCIAL VALUES it was arabs who came and brought some civilisation so tell someone who doesn't know Indian history, keep your love intact or you will lose most of India and yes I am referring to Punjab, kashmir and many more.....
You sound pretty pissed off buddy, keep it cool. have some sleep things will keep going. and by the way i don't think there is anything wrong in being gay. I am a strong believer in personal freedom. And last but not least lets not discuss love, that's beyond your comprehension.
taul
06-Aug-2009, 03:39 AM
@ Indian
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You are a "Pervert And A Hypocrite" you've got it all Upside Down in your Head :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Indianguy
06-Aug-2009, 03:54 AM
@ indian
--I Suggest get yourself Checked out by a good Shrink ,coz you Seem to be mixing Fantasies with Real World and Projecting it as if it were real.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ..You have Imaginary Friends That Runs In Billions :shock: :shock: :shock: ...
Let me Tell What's Going on here with you,You With an Ursurpassable Desire to Get Yourself ASSIMILATED and RECOGNIZED in the Indian HINDU Majority Nation,Has Found this an Easy Way Out that by May be Going to Such Extreme Lengths as to Being Almost Brainwashed With Such Dellusional and Non-Existent Theories would make you better Indian or more Patriotic :idea: :idea: Thats Surely and Truly Isn't the case and will never ever be as you have been Reluctantly trying to Achieve what Hindus have Achieved in Different Departments and Have this Sensation and hunch of Being Left Out.. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) There's Not Much of a Difference between you and a guy who sells himself for some Dough :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: Thank God you didn't Say Americans were your Blood :shock: :shock: :roll: If Mentioned Gypsies i would've Agreed :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Who Knows Tomorrow You Might End Up Calling your WIFE AS YOUR RELIGION THEN KIDS AND SO ON Since you have lOVE for them ALL :shock: :shock: :shock: GET SOME HELP :P :P :P :P :P
Like i said i've got a lot of True and REAL Inidan Muslim Friends who I'm Proud of,,why coz they know Exactly who they are!!!Haven't lost their Identity ,Have Been Focused in thier lives.....Poor you... :cry: :cry: :cry:
We All are with Baloch and our Khan Brothers People in Eradicating the "Indian Agents Backed Agenda" and Insha-Allah WE Will Succeed
Lastly and Most Significantly Free kashmir and Let People PLEBISCITE..Stop TERRORIZING THEM AND KILLING INNOCENT KASHMIRIS.. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
I too have email friends in Pakistan, and if I show you their emails, what they wish and how they think, you will be banging your head with the wall.
The only difference is they are very well educated and care for them their families and peace and prosperity.
taul
06-Aug-2009, 03:59 AM
@ Indian
-You're Sounding Quite Irrational now ,Regressing to a level that even you'd Find it Amusing and Disturbing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ,,,Since you can't Be Serious as those "Billion Imaginary friends" of yours are in your Messed up head :shock: :shock: :shock:
-Get facts Straightened Out in your head first,It's Very Essential as all the things have their Due and Right Place..You simply can't Place the Latter Before the Former and Vice Versa.So Give the things their Exact Place . :ugeek: :ugeek:...Loose Associations,Disconnection huh!!!1
-Education teaches you to Distinguish good from bad,Gives you a Sense of Intellect :idea: :idea: >>The Precise Reason I Suggested you have yourself Just Looked at by a good Psychiatrist... 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
digitalzygot
06-Aug-2009, 07:00 AM
This guy is seriously retarded, hey change your name. You must take advantage of GAY RIGHTS BILL you might get lucky and what I wrote previously was truth TRUTH BITES :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS and stop sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan, Srilanka, Nepal
digitalzygot
06-Aug-2009, 07:02 AM
'You believe in personal freedom and you okay with being GAY' yuck yewwww disgusting clearly shows what religion means to you such a hypocrite go see a shrink :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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